Cedric V Posted July 30, 2023 Share Posted July 30, 2023 I'm very excited to see the new version. MatixenDEV, Ryan Ashbrook, Charles and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawPi Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 I just transferred one of my licenses (pretty most important for me - it is uses on Polish unofficial IPS4/IPB Support board). I gained two months for free. FYI - that licence was bought ~ 10-12 years ago. All seems pretty fair imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafidea Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Fair if you use all apps. If only from the forum, it's not fair. HAIF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Matt Posted July 31, 2023 Management Share Posted July 31, 2023 We did an analysis of all our customers to work out the average renewal cost and buying habits. We made sure that the renewal price point was as close to the average as possible (we actually went under). We discussed the pricing at length and shared it with a handful of customers in a focus group to get thoughts and feedback, and tweaked accordingly. We have been as fair as we possibly can throughout this process. Undoubtably some may need to pay a bit more to unlock all that new functionality, but most will pay a bit less. We've found a pricing model that ensures the self-hosting version is viable for years to come. Invision Community v5 is the start of the next evolution for our community platform bringing in many features to help publish content, monetise the community and more. Just selling a forum app is a market in a serious decline. But you do not have to do anything. You can stick with your v4 license for as long as you wish. This is not a choice you need to make now, or even this year. Wait until v5 is out and then decide what is right for you. If it's not right for you, then be assured that v4 will remain supported for years to come. Kirill Gromov, SJ77, Miss_B and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 7/30/2023 at 8:03 AM, JustinHawk said: @Charles will these license terms affect third party devs? I was blocked on version 4.4 once Velion went awol and left me with a broken design. So why would I renew? As upgrade mostly breaks the designs.. That's mainly my experience, cannot say for someone else. Not Charles, but your site is not suppose to be frozen in time. If the template designer went AWOL, look for a new template by a new designer... keeping in mind that going to V5 will completely change the template system and you'll need to update again. These are just the costs of running a website. Charles, Randy Calvert, Jim M and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Faria Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Just updated mine. Earned a couple of months as a courtesy. Next renewal date: 18 January 2024. 👍 Charles and Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedric V Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Is there an ETA when we will see the first of the transition to v5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatsu Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 Well, updated mine, got 2 month on top of it. It's a very long time a got an offer which lets me pay less... Thank you 🙂 Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Faria Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Aerodynamic said: Is there an ETA when we will see the first of the transition to v5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted July 31, 2023 Management Share Posted July 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Hatsu said: Well, updated mine, got 2 month on top of it. It's a very long time a got an offer which lets me pay less... Thank you 🙂 Glad you see the benefit 🙂 Hatsu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 For 2 of 3 of mine, this seems cheaper if I keep my license up. What happens if funds are low and I let it lapse for a few months? I do this sometimes. Do I start paying again at that time? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted July 31, 2023 Management Share Posted July 31, 2023 12 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: For 2 of 3 of mine, this seems cheaper if I keep my license up. What happens if funds are low and I let it lapse for a few months? I do this sometimes. Do I start paying again at that time? Thanks If you choose to change to the new pricing, it depends in you go with monthly or annual renewals. If annual is your choice and you don’t renew, you can pick up your annual renewal later. If monthly is your choice and you don’t renew, you can either switch to annual or catch up your missed monthly payments. Square Wheels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Charles said: If you choose to change to the new pricing, it depends in you go with monthly or annual renewals. If annual is your choice and you don’t renew, you can pick up your annual renewal later. If monthly is your choice and you don’t renew, you can either switch to annual or catch up your missed monthly payments. Sounds fair. If I choose, how long do I have to choose? Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted July 31, 2023 Management Share Posted July 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: Sounds fair. If I choose, how long do I have to choose? We’re not sure yet 😀 This is just rolling out to new purchases which is why we haven’t done any formal announcements for existing clients. Square Wheels and Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreadknux Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Interesting change - I'm all for it, if it means that self-hosted is sustainable for IPS to continue forward. I simply don't have the budget to move to cloud, however tempting it is. It would allow me to explore the apps I've been interested in but haven't taken the plunge on yet (like Gallery and Downloads). I'm interested in the Commerce revamp and the ways I could monetise my community to help keep it sustainable too, but I'll wait for v5 to play around with any of that I reckon. Few random Qs: The upfront cost of $499 - does that apply only to new customers, or would current self-hosted customers wanting to move across to the new service have to pay that too? Or is that price variable based on customer loyalty? Will customers be able to remove the IPS branding after migrating to the new plan, or will they still need to pay $500 for branding removal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_B Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 What would be the monthly/yearly fees for the current Ipb 4.x license holders, should one decide to switch/upgrade to the new Ipb 5 license? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted August 1, 2023 Management Share Posted August 1, 2023 @Dreadknux and @Miss_B If you click the "switch" button in the client area on your license, it will show you a lot of information on your options. It does not actually switch you over until you approve it. Miss_B, Marc Stridgen and Dreadknux 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Charles said: @Dreadknux and @Miss_B If you click the "switch" button in the client area on your license, it will show you a lot of information on your options. It does not actually switch you over until you approve it. My licenses are current, I don't see a switch option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_B Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Thank you @Charles. I had one more question, if I understood it correctly, if I switch/upgrade to the new Ipb 5 license, that will allow me to download and use the other official Ipb 's apps as well? Did I understand it correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted August 1, 2023 Management Share Posted August 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Miss_B said: Thank you @Charles. I had one more question, if I understood it correctly, if I switch/upgrade to the new Ipb 5 license, that will allow me to download and use the other official Ipb 's apps as well? Did I understand it correctly? Yes, you will get all the apps. Miss_B 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Ashbrook Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 34 minutes ago, Square Wheels said: My licenses are current, I don't see a switch option. It will be on the purchase page for each individual license, at the bottom of the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss_B Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, Charles said: Yes, you will get all the apps. Thank you for the clarification. Personally I think that this is a pretty good/favourable deal. Marc Stridgen and Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 If I don't currently use all of the app, but upgrade my license, what do I need to do to get the other apps installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Explosion Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, CheersnGears said: If I don't currently use all of the app, but upgrade my license, what do I need to do to get the other apps installed? CheersnGears 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Wheels Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 36 minutes ago, Ryan Ashbrook said: It will be on the purchase page for each individual license, at the bottom of the page. Thanks, I missed that. All three licenses updated / upgraded. Charles and Matt 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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