NewRockRabbit Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 8 minutes ago, Cloud 9 said: Its a bit like the Circle (bullet) that takes you to the beginning of a post, most don't know that, i only learnt it the other day ... Ha ha, me as well and I have been using the software for FIVE years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 i also am wanting to set it by default to be condensed. i would actually prefer to have a 'normal' forum latest posts view and the activity stream as an additional feature. but if we are forced to use activity stream i would like to make it more like a forum than Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill N Posted November 10, 2015 Author Share Posted November 10, 2015 Another reason to add this option: turns out status updates are always parsed in full, with images, videos etc. This is what a non-condensed stream looks like with just one photo and one video... Please consider this @Lindy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Indeed, I agree. @Lindy I second the request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axpv Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 +1. I think it is a must for administrator to have it as an option that can be configured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigf136 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I've mentioned it in another topic but this needs to be a setting within the ACP that is controlled by the admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christophe Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 On 10/20/2015, 2:49:36, Lindy said: What's the reasoning, please and what's the issue you're trying to solve? Are you concerned the condensed / expanded options aren't prominent enough? Why not give your users the opportunity to see everything before deciding they don't need to? For me the analogy is the same as when you click on the Calendar and are shown the whole month...that is a condensed view because you start from a wide amount of data and then can drill down to the smaller. With a stream or timeline this would be similar to having a quick overview of the most amount of data WITHOUT details. This means titles and small attachments easily viewable with less amount of scrolling. Condensed view is more efficient because you go from simplified to detailled and not the opposite. Anyway the option to select which version you prefer should really be TRIVIAL in terms of adding that option to the ACP and I mean trivial in the sense that the functionality is there. You don t need to ask why people need it because if you don t understand that NOT seeing large attachments first is better than a simplified view with smaller attachments then it is difficult to explain the reason for the request. I for one would really like to be able to default as condensed and if IPB can not provide that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 Seconded 100%, Expanded view is too 'woolley' and shows too much initial information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IveLeft... Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 The condensed view would be better if it had all the bits that are missing like the old VNC........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGullet Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 1 hour ago, Christophe said: Anyway the option to select which version you prefer should really be TRIVIAL in terms of adding that option to the ACP and I mean trivial in the sense that the functionality is there. This isn't entirely true: because Invision implemented this feature by hardcoding expanded as the default, and only check for a cookie to see if they should collapse it, it's not as simple as you'd hope to make condensed the default. In an ideal world I think this would actually be a per-stream default setting that members could set when creating the stream, but that will require storing the default info in the DB, which they don't do right now. By storing it in the DB, users who access our site from a public computer lab/internet cafe/etc. or who clear their cookies after every session would still have their default preferences honored, too, which would be an added bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilihead Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 I wonder if text would solve this issue. For example. Get rid of the icons and simply say: Collapse results And when collapsed: Expand results If members can clearly see that they can toggle this and it saves for them, the issue is not as drastic. One of the problems is they are not seeing or recognizing the icons. I'd put the text to the right of the title. I don't think anyone would miss that. Or could still be on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGullet Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 In my experience, we'd need some <blink> tags and maybe a big animated arrow with a cute cat photo in it. I am not convinced that adding more visual clutter to the screen is going to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilihead Posted November 11, 2015 Share Posted November 11, 2015 3 minutes ago, eGullet said: In my experience, we'd need some <blink> tags and maybe a big animated arrow with a cute cat photo in it. I am not convinced that adding more visual clutter to the screen is going to help. Well what happens if you make condensed the default, and your members don't know about expanded? The issue seems to be visibility. Not default state. You like condensed better but your members may like expanded, so if the issue is they are not seeing the icons to be able to change to condensed, then let's address visibility/accessibility, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob275 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 21 hours ago, chilihead said: Well what happens if you make condensed the default, and your members don't know about expanded? The issue seems to be visibility. Not default state. You like condensed better but your members may like expanded, so if the issue is they are not seeing the icons to be able to change to condensed, then let's address visibility/accessibility, imo. I can speak for my entire board that them dislike expanded, either way, the fact there is no option to pick a default is the issue here. It needs to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted November 15, 2015 Management Share Posted November 15, 2015 This has been added to our internal tracker for further consideration. I'll report back our conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekguru Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 Thanks Lindy, appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eGullet Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 DawPi developed a plugin for us to set this up. It's in the Marketplace now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted November 20, 2015 Management Share Posted November 20, 2015 Follow-up: this has been "vetted" through our internal processes and it appears we're going to do this (if that changes for some unknown reason, I will update again, but don't expect it to) -- there's no ETA, but I don't suspect it will be a big task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koby Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 14 minutes ago, Lindy said: Follow-up: this has been "vetted" through our internal processes and it appears we're going to do this (if that changes for some unknown reason, I will update again, but don't expect it to) -- there's no ETA, but I don't suspect it will be a big task. What did y'all decide to do: Make collapsed default or give users/admins to the options to set the defaults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted November 20, 2015 Management Share Posted November 20, 2015 You can use as you feel appropriate for your own site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacas Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 7 hours ago, Lindy said: You can use as you feel appropriate for your own site. What does that mean? We will have the option to set the default: collapsed or expanded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilihead Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Yes that's what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jirinex Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Is this option available on 4.1.8 or do I still need the mod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surendra.S Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Any update that its already done or not in 4.1.10 ? I would like the option to make condensed view as default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirill N Posted June 19, 2016 Author Share Posted June 19, 2016 On 11/20/2015 at 11:19 AM, Lindy said: Follow-up: this has been "vetted" through our internal processes and it appears we're going to do this (if that changes for some unknown reason, I will update again, but don't expect it to) -- there's no ETA, but I don't suspect it will be a big task. So was this option ever added? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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