Dennis_87 Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 56 minutes ago, Nathan Explosion said: Curiosity - what did they do previously? The thing I'm not getting with this example, unless I'm missing something, is that image urls have not automatically parsed previously (ie in pre-4.x) and for them to show up in the preview then they would have had to use the image bbcode tags....which would be parsed by the preview option. [img][/img] So when they pasted images previously, what was it that they were actually doing to have them then show up in the preview? They did paste all the img tag from photobucket using a large list with all the images and did then click the preview button and all the img tags was shown as images, then it was easy to add the text to the correct image. It don't have to be a preview button, but have to be a feature that make all image links to images without the user have to press enter after each url or a button the user can press to make all image links show as images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikestart Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 2 hours ago, Joel R said: The problem with your argument, put forth by IPS and most others, is that the editor is a WYSIWYG. Except it's not. Again, if there's something you feel isn't displaying correctly in the editor, then that should be fixed. Introducing an additional preview feature is just ignoring the real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.F Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 8 hours ago, Vikestart said: Again, if there's something you feel isn't displaying correctly in the editor, then that should be fixed. Introducing an additional preview feature is just ignoring the real problem. Not having a preview feature in a WYSIWYG editor isn't really a problem. Feel free to jump into the ckeditor dev forums and ask for a plugin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted November 2, 2015 Management Share Posted November 2, 2015 22 hours ago, Vikestart said: Again, if there's something you feel isn't displaying correctly in the editor, then that should be fixed. Introducing an additional preview feature is just ignoring the real problem. Yes that is the approach we will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heradite Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 On 10/31/2015, 10:19:18, Vikestart said: By including an additional preview feature you'd be undermining the WYSIWYG functionality of the editor. If there's something you think is not showing correctly in the editor, you should not ask for some redudant preview feature, but instead want the actual problem / devitation to be corrected. As for the psychological effect argued over earlier, that'd be a human error and not a problem with the software. Change is scary, yeah, but you'll get used to it eventually. Yes. Human error. I wasn't aware the forum software was made for non-humans. I for one want a forum software made for human beings, not a forum software that is perfect and doesn't take into account human error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipbfuck Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 II vbulletin, eg, has wys*, sourcecode (here I can't see), and preview before to post (plus advanced mode with all bbcode and smilies: it's fantastic!!! many many problem and big security hole, but a fantastic editor!) here, in realty, I've just this... ... Or this (by screen orientation)! I think is really, really poor... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.F Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You know you can change the editor for mobile devices in your admin area right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13. Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 6 hours ago, laltroweb.it said: and big security hole Could you explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipbfuck Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 1 hour ago, Mr 13 said: Could you explain? vbulletin.com as been hacked same day ago... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/03/vbulletin_forum_software_hacked_defaced/ 6 hours ago, Paul.F said: You know you can change the editor for mobile devices in your admin area right? yes, but I can't for this forum (as user)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilihead Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Since there is no preview, for true WYSIWYG the editor background color, font style, color, all should match the site. But where do you change that in the software? My pages are not white, so I would need to change that. IPS should make the editor inherit that, or offer some easy styling. I've seen black and dark sites opt for a white editor for easy typing, so this is one instance where preview would be beneficial. On my current 3.4 I have the stock white editor but site is pale colors and preview is handy. However I'll change the editor, but where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikestart Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 6 hours ago, chilihead said: Since there is no preview, for true WYSIWYG the editor background color, font style, color, all should match the site. But where do you change that in the software? My pages are not white, so I would need to change that. IPS should make the editor inherit that, or offer some easy styling. I've seen black and dark sites opt for a white editor for easy typing, so this is one instance where preview would be beneficial. On my current 3.4 I have the stock white editor but site is pale colors and preview is handy. However I'll change the editor, but where? In 4.1 you actually don't need to make a theme for the CKEditor anymore since it's loaded with a DIV instead of an iFRAME. Thus, you can affect the styling of the editor through your theme's custom.css. I noticed this when I styled the quote boxes and spoiler boxes for the posts and saw that it applied to them in the editor as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Sounds good, what did you have to do in custom.css though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipbfuck Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Can i have this? (editor from ipb clients area) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicholas Cole Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 My members are asking for the Preview button already and our forum has only been live for a week! Personally I am happy enough without the need for it, but if users want it then can we please offer it at least an option in the Admin panel. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahaug Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 +1 my members are asking for the preview button too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpymoo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 If you have wrote a large post with image and other embeds etc, you have no way of knowing how it looks "posted" unless you post it, if that makes sense? For me, this is where a preview is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izaya Orihara Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 On 11/6/2015 3:19:08, laltroweb.it said: Can i have this? (editor from ipb clients area) Isnt that simply the IPB3.X editor lol. (Also bless you for using a Windows phone lol. I always like seeing the rare breeds. #lumiamasterace) That said, post preview really is of no major deal to me. I mean I support adding it for those who need it. Seems to be a con for many and it is a feature that is available in modern forum software. But I have never had any issue with text appearing the way I typed it on IPB4 or 4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ipbfuck Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 17 minutes ago, Izaya Orihara said: Isnt that simply the IPB3.X editor lol. (Also bless you for using a Windows phone lol. I always like seeing the rare breeds. #lumiamasterace) That said, post preview really is of no major deal to me. I mean I support adding it for those who need it. Seems to be a con for many and it is a feature that is available in modern forum software. But I have never had any issue with text appearing the way I typed it on IPB4 or 4.1 oh... really? ... (i'm sarcastic! i know this is an old ipb editor release - but, in my humble opinion, is best than current!) -.-' ... and, yes, a lumia with 100€ and you can make all you need (also office) isn't a good phone! is best a I*something from (600 €?) or a galaxy (galaxy €?). thanks for your opinion! now i go immediately to buy an iphone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izaya Orihara Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 9 minutes ago, laltroweb.it said: oh... really? ... (i'm sarcastic! i know this is an old ipb editor release - but, in my humble opinion, is best than current!) -.-' ... and, yes, a lumia with 100€ and you can make all you need (also office) isn't a good phone! is best a I*something from (600 €?) or a galaxy (galaxy €?). thanks for your opinion! now i go immediately to buy an iphone LOL oh I didn't catch the sarcasm I'd take the IPB3 editor personally but with IPb4 features lol. (Which lumia are you using? I am using the 640 XL lol....we're so off-topic lmao) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexsplosions Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I've just upgraded a forum to 4.1.4 from 3.4.8 and they're asking for preview to be added back. I upgraded a different forum from 3.4.8 to 4.1 a few weeks back. They are no longer asking the preview button. They've gotten used to it now. A button to preview exactly what is displayed on screen is pointless. I can see some need for niche forums, like those working with formulae, but the average user has no need for it. They just think they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Lindy Posted November 25, 2015 Management Share Posted November 25, 2015 We're going to roll out a feature that allows you to click a button and go "full screen" with the editor. We'll then revisit feedback to see what's changed. It seems like, apart from a couple of niche examples, it's mostly a confidence issue. Hopefully if you can see your content outside of the little edit box, it will help alleviate that concern. Generally speaking, what you see in the editor should be what gets posted as that's what inserted into the database. If you're seeing otherwise, it could be a bug. Expect that soon then we'll go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Explosion Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 1 hour ago, Lindy said: We're going to roll out a feature that allows you to click a button and go "full screen" with the editor. We'll then revisit feedback to see what's changed. It seems like, apart from a couple of niche examples, it's mostly a confidence issue. Hopefully if you can see your content outside of the little edit box, it will help alleviate that concern. Generally speaking, what you see in the editor should be what gets posted as that's what inserted into the database. If you're seeing otherwise, it could be a bug. Expect that soon then we'll go from there. Will this feature incorporate, or simply be, the ckeditor plugin 'maximize'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimpymoo Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 19 hours ago, Gimpymoo said: If you have wrote a large post with image and other embeds etc, you have no way of knowing how it looks "posted" unless you post it, if that makes sense? For me, this is where a preview is required. 2 hours ago, Lindy said: We're going to roll out a feature that allows you to click a button and go "full screen" with the editor. We'll then revisit feedback to see what's changed. It seems like, apart from a couple of niche examples, it's mostly a confidence issue. Hopefully if you can see your content outside of the little edit box, it will help alleviate that concern. Generally speaking, what you see in the editor should be what gets posted as that's what inserted into the database. If you're seeing otherwise, it could be a bug. Expect that soon then we'll go from there. Seems a sensible approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehku Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 FYI: I'm using this addon as a temporary solution: http://ckeditor.com/addon/preview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iacas Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 17 hours ago, Nathan Explosion said: Will this feature incorporate, or simply be, the ckeditor plugin 'maximize'? That's what I was thinking… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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