AlexWebsites Posted November 18, 2019 Posted November 18, 2019 Would be great to have an option for using Amazon SES API like sendgrid or when sparkpost was available. I’m using Amazon SES over SMTP, but I believe using their API would be better. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/send-email-api.html Dprock, PrettyPixels, pequeno and 6 others 9
AlexWebsites Posted November 24, 2019 Author Posted November 24, 2019 @Lucas James are you using amazon ses via smtp? If so, do you find its a little slow when posting in your forum? Ever since I switched to Amazon SES from Sparkpost API, seems slower. Would love to see IPS make the API a sending method as a native feature like sendgrid, but would settle for a plugin like the sparkpost api plugins made by @HeadStand and @Callum MacGregor sobrenome 1
Lucas James Posted November 24, 2019 Posted November 24, 2019 Not using Amazon SES via SMTP on any client's forum. Some use PHP Mail, some custom SMTP, some Gmail/Gsuite SMTP, and some SendGrid API. So, out of all, Gsuite/Gmail SMTP and SendGrid API are the fastest without any forum-posting lags. sobrenome 1
AlexWebsites Posted December 13, 2019 Author Posted December 13, 2019 I was using Sparkpost API when it was free and it had no posting lag. I see a lag with amazon SES SMTP, so was thinking API would be faster. sobrenome 1
Lucas James Posted December 13, 2019 Posted December 13, 2019 Web API is faster than SMTP: https://sendgrid.com/blog/web-api-or-smtp-relay-how-should-you-send-your-mail/ AlexWebsites, sobrenome and Losha1989 3
AlexWebsites Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 Is anyone interested in getting this developed? I do see some people in these forums using Amazon SES SMTP sobrenome 1
Makoto Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 I moved to GSuite myself from Sendgrid. Paying $20/month just to get issues with Hotmail e-mails being blocked because of IP reputation issues caused by other clients, and I'm sure not paying $100/month just for a dedicated IP so I can avoid issues I had less often sending mail locally from my server. Google Suite seems to just work. You also get to set an avatar for users that use the GMail app to see. I considered Amazon SES before moving to GSuite but never have tried it, so not sure how the deliverability is in comparison. The main limitations with GSuite are that it's a little more of a pain to set up, it requires SMTP (there's no API, though I mean, it's Google, so even their SMTP servers are reasonably fast) and there's hard-capped sending limits (3,000/day was the old advertised limit for G Suite but I've seen posts suggesting it can be up to 10,000/day). sobrenome and AlexWebsites 2
AlexWebsites Posted January 20, 2020 Author Posted January 20, 2020 Amazon SES is very cost effective for large communities. I haven’t tried gsuite outside of small clients I’ve helped. I’m not sure what the cost would be especially if you sent a newsletter out to thousands of members. Email reputation is a huge part of deliverability, so I also use mailbouncer. The main reason I mention Amazon SES API is because posting delays seem to happen more with SMTP than an API method. sobrenome and SJ77 2
Makoto Posted January 20, 2020 Posted January 20, 2020 Thing is my sender reputation with Sendgrid was a solid 98%-99% and I still had issues. May just be bad luck on my part, but two weeks with constant support tickets coming in about Hotmail clients not getting validation e-mails made me cut ties only two months after signing up with them. Amazon SES is definitely cost effective and their deliverability rates may be better, I don't know. It's really hard to find good data on raw delivery rates between these services outside of what's anecdotal. GSuite I think is amazing for standard notification e-mails for medium to large forums but definitely is not a solution if you need to batch out 10k+ e-mails in a single day. That said, I do 100% support adding native Amazon SES integration into IPS, as it is a very reputable solution especially for corporate/enterprise clients and does deserve its own spot beside Sendgrid. AlexWebsites, PrettyPixels, SC36DC and 1 other 4
AlexWebsites Posted March 18, 2020 Author Posted March 18, 2020 Hopefully this will be included in 4.5 as an option. sobrenome 1
AlexWebsites Posted April 14, 2020 Author Posted April 14, 2020 I'm going to hold off getting this plugin developed to see if functionality will be added to 4.5. I wasn't able to get an answer from IPS support either way, which now forces me to just wait and see I guess. On smaller things like this, it would be nice to know what's planned and what is not on a roadmap. Used to be where feature suggestions were tagged as "planned" or not, which was nice. CoffeeCake and sobrenome 2
AlexJ Posted June 15, 2020 Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) On 4/14/2020 at 2:18 PM, AlexWebsites said: I'm going to hold off getting this plugin developed to see if functionality will be added to 4.5. I wasn't able to get an answer from IPS support either way, which now forces me to just wait and see I guess. On smaller things like this, it would be nice to know what's planned and what is not on a roadmap. Used to be where feature suggestions were tagged as "planned" or not, which was nice. Any word on this? Available in 4.5? Edited June 15, 2020 by AlexJ AlexWebsites and sobrenome 2
AlexWebsites Posted June 16, 2020 Author Posted June 16, 2020 On 6/14/2020 at 10:30 PM, AlexJ said: Any word on this? Available in 4.5? I just installed 4.5 beta and it's not an option. IPS continues to only have sendgrid as an option:
Chris027 Posted June 16, 2020 Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I was a huge fan of Amazon SES. I used SendGrid until it started costing several hundred dollars per month to send emails. I switched to SES and everything was good and inexpensive. Then Amazon decided to block my account because of a crazy plugin glitch that sent hundreds of emails per second for an hour before I could stop it. Working with Amazon to get my account unblocked was impossible. Email exchanges took days and there was zero clarity about how to work with them in the future. I didn't want to deal with Amazon anymore because it's a terrible company to work with as a small business. I switched to sending email from my own server. This is also a nightmare because now I have to work with ISPs from around the world who block my email for no good reason. One German ISP won't pass my email to its customers until I put my complete physical address on my website. I can't do that because I've received threats in the past. Edited June 16, 2020 by Chris027 sobrenome 1
AlexWebsites Posted June 16, 2020 Author Posted June 16, 2020 It's the bounce rates that can get you banned from amazon, so I use mailbouner in conjunction and its been very good and cost effective route for me and m,y multiple sites. I'm just looking to use their API instead of SMTP. sobrenome 1
Ryan M Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 I would like to see the API supported just like the sendgrid one is. Maybe sendinblue.com as well. AlexWebsites, sobrenome and NZyan 3
AlexWebsites Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 15 hours ago, Ryan M said: I would like to see the API supported just like the sendgrid one is. Maybe sendinblue.com as well. Sendinblue is a good one, maybe mailchimp also. sobrenome 1
AlexJ Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 11:21 AM, Chris027 said: I was a huge fan of Amazon SES. I used SendGrid until it started costing several hundred dollars per month to send emails. I switched to SES and everything was good and inexpensive. Then Amazon decided to block my account because of a crazy plugin glitch that sent hundreds of emails per second for an hour before I could stop it. Working with Amazon to get my account unblocked was impossible. Email exchanges took days and there was zero clarity about how to work with them in the future. I didn't want to deal with Amazon anymore because it's a terrible company to work with as a small business. I switched to sending email from my own server. This is also a nightmare because now I have to work with ISPs from around the world who block my email for no good reason. One German ISP won't pass my email to its customers until I put my complete physical address on my website. I can't do that because I've received threats in the past. How did you configure Amazon SES? Any tips? How much it would cost for sending 1200 emails/day sobrenome and SC36DC 2
AlexWebsites Posted June 28, 2020 Author Posted June 28, 2020 7 hours ago, AlexJ said: How did you configure Amazon SES? Any tips? How much it would cost for sending 1200 emails/day It’s $0.10 for every 1000 emails. See https://aws.amazon.com/ses/pricing/ Because there is no plugin or native API support, you have to use SMTP. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/ses/latest/DeveloperGuide/send-email-smtp.html sobrenome 1
AlexWebsites Posted August 8, 2020 Author Posted August 8, 2020 Is anyone interested in having this developed? I don’t see it as part of 4.5, so we’ll need a plug-in. sobrenome and SC36DC 2
Chris027 Posted August 8, 2020 Posted August 8, 2020 I would’ve been interested but I’ve stopped using Amazon for nearly everything because the company will take actions that can bring parts of your site down but only reply to support emails once per week. Amazon is a terrible business partner. IP-Gamers 1
Fast Lane! Posted August 13, 2020 Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) Does IPB get a $$ cut for sendgrid? Maybe that's why there isn't a native mode for SES. Edited August 13, 2020 by Fast Lane!
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