guyroch Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) I just got this warning on my hosted site, is this for real? Quote You are running an outdated version of Invision Community. Please upgrade before 1 July 2022. After that date, your site will be automatically moved to latest version. Edited March 23, 2022 by guyroch SeNioR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 yes, that is correct. You Would need to ensure you are up to date before that date (at least on 4.6) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawPi Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Marc Stridgen said: yes, that is correct. You Would need to ensure you are up to date before that date (at least on 4.6) Why exactly? 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Silvester Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, DawPi said: Why exactly? 🙂 We're updating some of our Cloud infrastructure and it won't be compatible with 4.5. DawPi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyroch Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Stuart Silvester said: We're updating some of our Cloud infrastructure and it won't be compatible with 4.5. What is broken between 4.5 and 4.6? I highly doubt that AWS made an infrastructure change that would break 4.5. Forcing an upgrade on your customers is nothing short of reckless IMO. You have pinned me against the wall; I now face a $15k to $20k price tag to upgrade/test a comprehensive custom plugin. SeNioR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Calvert Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 hours ago, guyroch said: What is broken between 4.5 and 4.6? I highly doubt that AWS made an infrastructure change that would break 4.5. Forcing an upgrade on your customers is nothing short of reckless IMO. You have pinned me against the wall; I now face a $15k to $20k price tag to upgrade/test a comprehensive custom plugin. It has nothing to do with AWS.  It has to do with the software IPS has deployed running their cloud. They can’t keep running old software forever because you don’t want to upgrade. If staying on an old version is important, it might make more sense to self host. Charles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 hours ago, guyroch said: What is broken between 4.5 and 4.6? I highly doubt that AWS made an infrastructure change that would break 4.5. Forcing an upgrade on your customers is nothing short of reckless IMO. You have pinned me against the wall; I now face a $15k to $20k price tag to upgrade/test a comprehensive custom plugin. As mentioned above, this has little to do with AWS and more to do with keeping our cloud platform up to date. At some point we do have to stop supporting older versions. If you are running custom items you have had developed, you really should be accounting for the fact that these will have to be kept up to date alongside the platform. It needs to be noted that there have been 12 releases, including one feature release, and even a security related release since 4.5. Whether we were updating our infrastructure or otherwise, you really should be thinking about upgrading. SeNioR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Silvester Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 hours ago, guyroch said: What is broken between 4.5 and 4.6? I highly doubt that AWS made an infrastructure change that would break 4.5. Security updates for PHP 7.4 come to an end this year, we're going to be moving to a newer version of PHP and Invision Community 4.5 will simply not work with newer PHP versions. As noted above, it's important to keep up with security related updates and patches. We're doing our part to make sure that is happening, and you should also want to make sure you're using our latest releases to make sure that you're also up to date with any fixes. SeNioR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Man Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, Stuart Silvester said: Security updates for PHP 7.4 come to an end this year Blimey! That's come around quick. 🤔 I tried PHP8 but 4.6 didn't like it at all, but I think in retrospect that was more likely down to Apache not happy running both 7.4 and 8 (in terms of some PHP extensions for both). SeNioR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonya* Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Old Man said: I tried PHP8 but 4.6 didn't like it at all I have upgraded all my 4.6 projects to 8.0.17. No issues at all. 🤨 The Old Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, The Old Man said: Blimey! That's come around quick. 🤔 I tried PHP8 but 4.6 didn't like it at all, but I think in retrospect that was more likely down to Apache not happy running both 7.4 and 8 (in terms of some PHP extensions for both). Make sure it wasnt 8.1 . We havent released compatibility for that yet, so that may have been your issue Sonya* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Silvester Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, The Old Man said: Blimey! That's come around quick. 🤔 Yep! PHP are far more strict with support timelines than they used to be when PHP 5 was around. It's for the better too, it enables new features to be available a little bit quicker. Obviously, we need to write the code to be compatible with the lowest supported version so it isn't always possible to use the latest constructs and features. https://www.php.net/supported-versions.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Man Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 50 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said: Make sure it wasnt 8.1 . We havent released compatibility for that yet, so that may have been your issue Thanks Marc, it was 8.0.something. 9 minutes ago, Stuart Silvester said: Yep! PHP are far more strict with support timelines than they used to be when PHP 5 was around. It's for the better too, it enables new features to be available a little bit quicker. Obviously, we need to write the code to be compatible with the lowest supported version so it isn't always possible to use the latest constructs and features. https://www.php.net/supported-versions.php Absolutely. 58 minutes ago, Sonya* said: I have upgraded all my 4.6 projects to 8.0.17. No issues at all. 🤨 Good to know, thanks. Were you running more than 1 version of PHP? I had to maintain 7.4 with 8.0 for a huge non-IPS site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonya* Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, The Old Man said: Were you running more than 1 version of PHP? I have Plesk and can choose between different versions. So, yes, there are many, but I do not maintain anything, just click with the mouse 😄 The Old Man and SeNioR- 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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