The Old Man

Hi @PPlanet It's probably just temporary. They have launched the long awaited Awards facility, so that's probably the reason. Possibly it's configuring itself with such a large community, and they'll probably be tweaking it a bit too, setting up the points system/ranks etc. 🙂

Quick thanks to everyone for sharing their thoughts in this topic and I really appreciate the time spent in doing so. Whether we agree or disagree on things, it's nice to see dialogue and always good to read other people's perspectives. Morrigan, quick thanks for the explanations on those terms! I thought I was up to speed on Twitter acronyms but haven't used it much in recent years, far too much bile for my liking!

Hi Jordan, Thanks for your thoughts. Not having a go, but to be honest, personally I don't really want or expect to be challenged! To be fair, I've already answered this in previous responses and others have too. I don't feel that you have really answered some of my points that I clarified. Funnily enough, your stance on not backtracking isn't exactly coming across as being open to flexibility when it comes to the changes you're making to this community and the response did actually make me want to reach for a confused reaction! If ever there was a reason to use it, I feel it's representative of my reaction in response to your post. 😊 We seem to be going backwards with this community, against a backdrop of pandemic's emotional and financial turmoil going on, ideally we need to either be moving forwards or finding some stability, especially as we're now practically mourning the unexpected departure of such a knowledgeable, respected, prolific and supportive member of the IPS team without a chance to wish him well. I know that people come and go but still, IMHO he's left such a massive void. I'm not wanting to draw conclusions and there's a lot of talent and knowledge within the IPS company, but just this morning I read that IPS is dropping the facility to copy custom Pages blocks in 4.6 because it's overly complicated; surely copying and duplicating blocks is a basic facility for any modern page builder or CMS software. I'd actually be embarrassed as a CEO if my CMS couldn't do this in 2021. Also, apologies as I'm in my early fifties and I'm not firing on all thrusters these days, but I just don't understand the cat reaction! What does it actually mean or reference, if it wasn't solely an April Fool's day inspired joke to make us chuckle, which it did me? I mean I've used it for fun which I thought it was for, and I'm not against it, but going back to your challenge, why do feel that adding a cat is any different or more acceptable than that of a saddened/empathy reaction in that it should require a follow up post/comment? I feel that there's perhaps other similar things going on at the moment. I mean I have absolutely no idea what this Hump Day thing is all about, or FBF topic prefixes or whatever that is. We keep getting told that this a professional forum community, one that is representative of commercial products, which obviously it is, but where do cats and these bizarre references come into the equation? It's not really feeling inclusive, it's feeling more exclusive, to those hip enough, or those who have the time to read every topic or those in the know. I kind of feel that we are also somehow almost going backwards in terms of new feature announcements being vaguely revealed within these obscure topics, where as for years they've been properly revealed and well demonstrated in the corporate blog. When people started referring to a new feature called Awards, I then had to search for the subtle announcement. Anyway, thanks for reading.

Wow, that's a shame. Thanks though for the quick response and clarification.

Hi, Can anyone else with Pages please confirm in 4.5.4.2, that if you copy an existing custom block from within the AdminCP, that it creates a copy with only the first tab 'Details', but the second tab 'Content' is always empty? Many thanks!

As ever, Morrigan you are spot on. This is what I was rather clumsily attempting to get across. I could live without the confused reaction here, but the saddened reaction is missed. Being saddened to read a piece of content is not simply about being negative or giving a negative impression of a community, it's about being emphatic too, sometimes showing solidarity, and I think being supportive of fellow members in a 'community' is just as important as 'liking' what they say. That said, my earlier pizza instead of cat observation got no likes, or cats, so clearly I know very little. You know, I could really eat a good pizza right now. Even though it's 9am.

@christopher-w Hi Chris, I didn't realise those animated GIFs didn't have ALT attributes. I don't know how useful it will be but there CSS accessibility improvements being more supported in browsers that may help to compliment the granular controls. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-reduced-motion Real early draft, this one... https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/@media/prefers-reduced-data You may even be able to create a copy of your current theme, say "My-Theme (less clutter)", and make use of the CSS to display: block certain content, more of a sledgehammer approach I know. Regards

You had me at pizza but the other expression is almost as good. In fact, thinking about it, I may start a new dialogue (I promise not to) about why Jordan didn't add a pizza reaction instead of a cat. I mean it cures everything, right? Negativity, sadness, leprosy, people who still say Message Board, senior men's problems, people who still call it IPB and so the list goes on. 🍕

LOL! Thank you. 😀

Thanks everyone for their responses and thoughts either way. 😊

Thanks for the response and your thoughts... I actually never said anything about negative reactions in terms of actual -1 scoring, I hate negativity as anyone who knows me personally would tell, I battled it in a real world team as a team leader and manager for years. I'm also all for company loyalty but proud not be a 'Company Yesman Jellyfish' for that matter. Absolutely, me too. I disabled the dislike -1 button on my own community for a few reasons, but mostly because I think deducting reputation points is not worthwhile and it can misfire when it comes to impacting member's reputation in their their profiles. However in my community, you are free to quickly express sadness at someone being ill or having lost their job, or express confusion (we renamed it bewildered for fun solely because I think it's such a great word!). We have members who are not great or are learning with computers, if they don't get something first time they can freely say their confused and ask for clarification. They can you these other reactions and they don't add or subtract a point, they're just neutral, they don't detract from anything. Members are free to add a follow up post, or not, it's completely up to them. If you only allow one sided opinion to be expressed you're potentially on the path of manipulating your community in my book. How long until the penny drops in the minds of your community, or you start hiding and at the extreme begin deleting posts that don't conform with the management way of thinking. I honestly think, and again it's just my take, you can give people a choice of reactions without introducing negativity, just use positive and neutral reactions and back it up with a fair and reasonable set of community guidelines. We don't always get it right, but I'd say is that my community is considered by many long term members to be a haven, it's almost 20 years old but it didn't start out that way. We used to allow all reasonable, work friendly and legal topics of conversation but politics and religion (yes, those 2 subjects that have been destroying civilisations for millennia) were an absolute nightmare. People just can't seem to behave themselves and give a respectful opinion. This was long before reactions came along. It was like the toxic vitriol you see every day on social media, that even from the normally respectable of people can leave you feeling dirty after 30 minutes of exposure, and heading for a cleansing hot shower. The best thing we ever did was remove those 2 topics except in the context of that shown in a particular TV series our community was originally about and we explained why. We now have 4 members of staff including myself and we've not moderated anything for maybe 16 years or so, except for the random human spammer or the occasional troll. Reactions came along and my members love them as much as they prefer old fashioned animated emoticons over emoji and giphys. There is no negativity, it's never hurt my community and people can say if they don't agree with something we're talking about, either by a quick reaction and or a reply. It's about striking a balance where conversation and viewpoints are appreciated, even if people have a different view than your own. Lol. Yes don't we all! So it's a yes then, it's confirmation of what I was concerned about; a not so subtle coercion! I knew they were all out to get me. Seriously though having a sad or confused graphic doesn't mean that people can't express disagreement with a particular corporate stance or comment, or that members in your community here should be prevented from quickly showing empathy in they're a bit are worried about you, because you are struggling with COVID in an off-topic part of the community that's for member to member chat. Thanks Jordan, I appreciate your reply as well. My personal take on that first point is that it reminds me of the old saying, "Statistics, statistics and damn statistics"; incidentally I do like all you can eat stats and analysis myself! There's two ways of looking at your report. Yes, one is that those 2 reactions may be under-utilised compared to Likes and Laughs. The other way to look and interpret it is that it's showing you that you're generally or even more strongly so doing something right, because the reaction to your websites content is mostly positive and often light hearted and good natured. Isn't that what Matt said he prefers? By removing the less used reactions simply for the sake of their usage, you've kind of shot yourself in the foot, because now you're effectively no longer seeing as true, reflective and clear snapshot of your community. I can understand that, it being a corporate site, but please consider too that not everyone feels comfortable having to justify themselves over every little thing, by and large. Sometimes people simply don't have the time or confidence to do so or plan to come back later. Sometimes a quick sad reaction to some news is enough to show support or solidarity. Sometimes people are new to a community and aren't quite ready to jump in yet. Your stance could equally be, however unintentionally or with the best intentions, interpreted as sending a message; that only the most vocal of people's opinions count, are welcome, are as important, interesting or deemed valid. Yes, as above. I've also found positive and neutral scoring reactions work best. That's cool but it's about striking a middle ground. It's not about allowing or risking dissent in the ranks. In the spirit of *maintaining my upbeatness and positivity, thanks for not removing the 😔 😩 or 😡! Hey, this is a feedback forum, where IPS asks for feedback, and so I gave it. To those supportive, thank you, to those reacting to my post by calling me a pussy, cat or whatever the cat emoji actually now means now that April Fools Day has gone, that's fine, you 😻! Again, I never said anything about restoring negative reactions. You're so wrong about why I created this feedback topic, in a feedback forum, that's always been for feedback, like from customers. Of all the cheek, right? I should be flogged. Publicly, in the village square and my IPS licences torn up in front of my face, friends and family. But wait, you're being negative, we don't do that hear, I'll report you good! Moving on... * Me, maintaining my positivity and upbeatness! Still positive, don't worry I got this! Here's some of the books I personally use to achieve my positive zen, without falling down a negative shame spiral... Available from all good bookstores near you... or Amazon, they're positive folks... Sent this to a few people at Christmas, highly recommended... Next, a personal favourite... But really I owe it all to...

The +1 button was a great idea but please return or improve the number of reactions here at the IPS Community forum. It's feels to me IMHO almost like we're being stifled by some dark, manipulative branding and marketing PR department or something. Reactions allowing the ability to show you you're saddened, disagree or are confused about something and help provide a balance of opinion, freedom of expression and thought. Thanks for reading.

SVGs are definitely great for logos and non-complex images, they scale nicely being vector images although they can add a lot of bloat to a page but fortunately they're cachable. Something that came to mind, I'm not sure what if any protection is in place within IPS for non-IPS provided/third party uploaded SVGs. You need to be careful and make sure that they’re sanitized to stop SVG/XML vulnerabilities affecting your site. There's a good library available here that can help to avoid opening up security holes by allowing uploads of unsanitised files, it's used by some highly rated SVG Wordpress plugins: https://github.com/darylldoyle/svg-sanitizer Just something to be mindful of. 🙂

Thanks @Nathan Explosion just installed. That's what I'm talking about!