Morrigan Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 I’ve complained before that wiki editing shouldn’t have an original author, or owner, at all. While the authors/editors should be in the editing history the listing itself should never truly have a single author. It should be possible, especially in pages, to set multiple owners. You see this behavior on major websites such as Microsoft where the people that have contributed/have ownership of the listing are listed as “contributors”. I would like to empower my users to allow secondary editors to some of the contributions so those people also have the ability to edit their content. Sort of like adding a moderator to a forum, do it at the listing level in pages. AlexJ, MEVi, kmk and 5 others 5 3
kmk Posted April 18, 2021 Posted April 18, 2021 Casually I want to open a suggest about giving specific member to edit first post of topic without administrator permission. My case is using forums to handle the teamwork discussion, sometime the moderator just need to create topic title and the first post content incompleted, because need other member editing the first post to complete the content, then changing it while the discussion go forward. sobrenome and MEVi 1 1
Jordan Miller Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 I love this suggestion. I have found many instances when featuring a member's topic, I will add some additional information to their post, which looks like the OP wrote it. I want to clarify to people that there are now two authors, at least a contributing author, so no one's words are minced. sobrenome, Unienc, Davyc and 1 other 1 3
kmk Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 And keep the history of changes saved, something like Article, the collaboration of content. Example, user A create a topic to follow a project, in the post user A need leave a budget amount to start, but user B is who approve and take decision of the amount, so user B just change the amount of budget what he want, then through the history saved we can know the amount is suggested by x amount, then is changed and decided to x amount by user B. So no more asking and waiting user A for correction of the project information. sobrenome 1
MEVi Posted April 19, 2021 Posted April 19, 2021 I also have this problem because depending on the duration of the project the URLs can change or I have to rephrase the title of the project. sobrenome 1
SeNioR- Posted April 21, 2021 Posted April 21, 2021 I would also see this possibility in the future. Unienc, MEVi, Ibai and 2 others 5
Jordan Miller Posted April 21, 2021 Posted April 21, 2021 7 hours ago, SeNioR- said: I would also see this possibility in the future. Love this! sobrenome 1
Morrigan Posted April 22, 2021 Author Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) I don’t want this suggestion to get diluted! Please!! I am looking for the ability to say “this is my article but I trust person1, person23 and person 1007 to make changes” and from there they have the same rights as the owner to make changes to the article. I’m not exclusively talking about wiki editing in which doesn’t have a real owner and all members can edit. Wiki editing has a mess of its own that needs to be solved first before this feature is permissible. Edited April 22, 2021 by Morrigan Ibai, sobrenome and MEVi 3
kmk Posted April 22, 2021 Posted April 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Morrigan said: this is my article but I trust person1, person23 and person 1007 to make changes” ＋1 sobrenome 1
Jordan Miller Posted April 22, 2021 Posted April 22, 2021 14 hours ago, Morrigan said: I don’t want this suggestion to get diluted! Please!! I am looking for the ability to say “this is my article but I trust person1, person23 and person 1007 to make changes” and from there they have the same rights as the owner to make changes to the article. I’m not exclusively talking about wiki editing in which doesn’t have a real owner and all members can edit. Wiki editing has a mess of its own that needs to be solved first before this feature is permissible. So in this scenario, it'd be a per Topic setting. In that Topic setting, on the initial post of the topic (the topic starter), there'd a button that'd say "add authors." Once added, those members would be able to edit the post. Is that right? @InvisionHQ Whatcha think? :] Love this btw InvisionHQ and sobrenome 1 1
Morrigan Posted April 22, 2021 Author Posted April 22, 2021 Again, I don't think this is a feature that needs to be added to forums. This is a feature that needs to be added to pages. Pages has its own thing and I think that Topics need to be unique to the users and SHOULD NOT be shared by multiple people. Pages articles/records, on the other hand, should have this capability especially on large sites where you want content submitters but not necessarily a million moderators. Its like "group blog" adjacent but at the article/record level of pages where you can add those that are permitted to make changes to the article that are non-staff members. So: I own an article but I need you @Jordan Invision to be able to edit the article because you're a person that knows about the subject/article/company/listing/thing that the article is about. I add you as "additional editors" or whatever you want to call it. Now, even though you're not a mod/admin you have the "can edit" functionality on my article, you can click edit and make changes as needed but I still own the article. Then, lets say you are no longer the business on this article and or no longer interested in updating it. I can remove you and add someone else to edit said article. That mod only works if you are also using the "account switcher" mod and you allow people to create accounts that multiple people can log into. Which is technically the only solution for what I'm asking for at the moment but the account security there makes me cringe. sobrenome, Ibai, Jordan Miller and 2 others 3 2
kmk Posted April 23, 2021 Posted April 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Jordan Invision said: So in this scenario, it'd be a per Topic setting. In that Topic setting, on the initial post of the topic (the topic starter), there'd a button that'd say "add authors." Once added, those members would be able to edit the post. Is that right? @InvisionHQ Whatcha think? :] Love this btw It seems only change author. 1. The original author still own the topic? 2. Can be added more than one author? 😅Maybe you will say to me, ask to app author for modifications and support. Obviously hope that can be added as core features. sobrenome 1
kmk Posted May 20, 2021 Posted May 20, 2021 On 4/21/2021 at 9:55 AM, Jordan Invision said: Love this! Hi @Jordan Invision, do you know if this feature will be added? On 4/29/2021 at 2:37 AM, InvisionHQ said: Yes this plugin only change the topic author. Not possible add multiple authors ability? Unienc and sobrenome 2
Jordan Miller Posted May 21, 2021 Posted May 21, 2021 17 hours ago, kmk said: Hi @Jordan Invision, do you know if this feature will be added? Not possible add multiple authors ability? Hey @kmk we don't have any plans on implementing this officially... yet. 🙏
MEVi Posted May 24, 2021 Posted May 24, 2021 (edited) I discover the Wiki features and realize that it is not possible to define a unique author in the page module. This would avoid having to edit thousands of articles to assign them to a fictitious member. Edited May 24, 2021 by MEVi
Jimi Wikman Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 1:38 AM, Morrigan said: I’ve complained before that wiki editing shouldn’t have an original author, or owner, at all. While the authors/editors should be in the editing history the listing itself should never truly have a single author. It should be possible, especially in pages, to set multiple owners. You see this behavior on major websites such as Microsoft where the people that have contributed/have ownership of the listing are listed as “contributors”. I would like to empower my users to allow secondary editors to some of the contributions so those people also have the ability to edit their content. Sort of like adding a moderator to a forum, do it at the listing level in pages. Sort of like the group blog feature that the Blog have? In a Wiki-like page it would be nice to list all contributors rather than original poster. How to present this would depend a bit on the amount of contributors though.... If we have this information available in the templates, then we should be able to modify it accordingly....
Morrigan Posted May 25, 2021 Author Posted May 25, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 10:15 AM, Morrigan said: Again, I don't think this is a feature that needs to be added to forums. This is a feature that needs to be added to pages. Pages has its own thing and I think that Topics need to be unique to the users and SHOULD NOT be shared by multiple people. Pages articles/records, on the other hand, should have this capability especially on large sites where you want content submitters but not necessarily a million moderators. Its like "group blog" adjacent but at the article/record level of pages where you can add those that are permitted to make changes to the article that are non-staff members. So: I own an article but I need you @Jordan Invision to be able to edit the article because you're a person that knows about the subject/article/company/listing/thing that the article is about. I add you as "additional editors" or whatever you want to call it. Now, even though you're not a mod/admin you have the "can edit" functionality on my article, you can click edit and make changes as needed but I still own the article. Then, lets say you are no longer the business on this article and or no longer interested in updating it. I can remove you and add someone else to edit said article. That mod only works if you are also using the "account switcher" mod and you allow people to create accounts that multiple people can log into. Which is technically the only solution for what I'm asking for at the moment but the account security there makes me cringe. On 4/21/2021 at 7:39 PM, Morrigan said: I don’t want this suggestion to get diluted! Please!! I am looking for the ability to say “this is my article but I trust person1, person23 and person 1007 to make changes” and from there they have the same rights as the owner to make changes to the article. I’m not exclusively talking about wiki editing in which doesn’t have a real owner and all members can edit. Wiki editing has a mess of its own that needs to be solved first before this feature is permissible. 1 minute ago, Jimi Wikman said: Sort of like the group blog feature that the Blog have? In a Wiki-like page it would be nice to list all contributors rather than original poster. How to present this would depend a bit on the amount of contributors though.... If we have this information available in the templates, then we should be able to modify it accordingly.... Ibai 1
Jimi Wikman Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 Ah, so more of an invitation feature to collaborate on a database entry where both would be "authors"?
Morrigan Posted May 25, 2021 Author Posted May 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Jimi Wikman said: Ah, so more of an invitation feature to collaborate on a database entry where both would be "authors"? Correct. Jimi Wikman 1
opentype Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 I also need this functionality often. Just because someone started a record, doesn’t mean others should not be recognized. They might have done most of the work. I set this up as custom MySQL query with some of my databases: Better control for who can edit would also be nice. I guess the typical way to do this is to allow “invitations” for contributors instead of letting all members edit. Jimi Wikman, kmk, Morrigan and 1 other 3 1
kmk Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 I need this, someone can do something before IPS add it as part of core? In my use case, I need invite contributors for a topic or a category, or article, then only them can see that collaboration content.
Miss_B Posted May 25, 2021 Posted May 25, 2021 Just now, kmk said: I need this, someone can do something before IPS add it as part of core? In my use case, I need invite contributors for a topic or a category, or article, then only them can see that collaboration content. You can request it at the request forum. https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/forum/506-requests/
Morrigan Posted May 25, 2021 Author Posted May 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, kmk said: I need this, someone can do something before IPS add it as part of core? In my use case, I need invite contributors for a topic or a category, or article, then only them can see that collaboration content. Please use the requests forum as this is wholly intended for Pages, not forums. Thanks.
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