Durango Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 HiI have a major issue with IPB considering to migrate to IPB for several existing communitiesWhen i visit IPB on the official forum and then the official Xenforo forum, i immediately notice a huge difference : much faster on the xenforo forumnot the homepage, but the topics pages take 1 or 2s more to load on ipb (and i have the faster optic connection 500m/s)tested on the official forums as i assume they must both have strong dedicated serversSo this is a major issue for me : why is it so laggy on IPB ? i was hoping IPB4 would be as fast as Xenforo but it looks like its not the case and its really annoying for users and also for adminsi really like IPB so im a bit disappointed with the speed problemany opinions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted December 1, 2014 Management Share Posted December 1, 2014 As this is a beta version we are still optimizing the speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durango Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 Hi Charles ok, if you manage to optimize the speed, then IPB will definitely be the best solution on the market Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jimmo Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 You can look at the software once it is optimally performing and all aspects of caching are enabled but the real test will be what you are running on. It doesn't matter what software you're running if your hardware cannot accommodate for it With that in mind there are a lot of variables in "speed" of web software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted December 1, 2014 Management Share Posted December 1, 2014 It's already way faster than it was two weeks ago when we first applied beta on this site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsman Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 You can look at the software once it is optimally performing and all aspects of caching are enabled but the real test will be what you are running on. It doesn't matter what software you're running if your hardware cannot accommodate for it With that in mind there are a lot of variables in "speed" of web software. Not to mention server applications - Shared, VPS, Dedicated. Also Server build - Memory, CPU, Drives and caching (IDE, Sata, Digital) Operating system, Web software and versions, backbone - Apache, Mysql, PhP. Plus so many other variables to consider in server setup. Not to mention hosting, there are the Good and Bad there also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'm not seeing any speed issues on this site currently. Everything is snappy for me. Charles has also stated that none of the performance enhancements like caching and such are currently running... which bodes well for when they do switch them on.Is it slightly slower than the Xenforo site at the moment? Possibly, but not enough to be humanly measurable. Non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I'll add.. my own 4.0 test install is much faster than my 3.4.6 production install and both are running on the same server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigPaws Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Site suddenly load a lot quicker today when on iPhone - good work Still having issues with being able to type in quick reply box, but have reported that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatravision Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 As this is a beta version we are still optimizing the speed Really? Since the beginning of IPB4, this forum is more than slow. It takes sometimes 10-15sec just to load a page... when it took 2-3 seconds before Seriously, there is no way to upgrade with such performances. It's pretty disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estan Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 it is very very fast for me. And there is a big difference and improvement since the first days when IPS 4.0 beta was put here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted December 5, 2014 Management Share Posted December 5, 2014 Really? Since the beginning of IPB4, this forum is more than slow.It takes sometimes 10-15sec just to load a page... when it took 2-3 seconds beforeSeriously, there is no way to upgrade with such performances.It's pretty disappointing.It takes you 10 - 15 seconds to load a page? What page are you referring to? I would be very surprised if that were true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcatravision Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I'm afraid but it was yesterday and a few day before. it's 2-3 seconds this morning.Just when I click on a topic or on a forum it took a lot of time for loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASTRAPI Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 The biggest performance advantage for IPB4 will be the easy way to cache guests that already works on beta I didn't have the time to benchmark if it is faster using the onboard option with Memcache for example or if it is faster to do it in the hard way with Nginx fcgi cache .... Xenforo can do that also with a few edits (not so easy as one click on IPB) and not out of the box solution as some lines of custom coding needed to get the magic HIT ... Xenforo has every query optimized one by one and they seems to do a very good job at it ! Invision is more easy to use and more good looking with more hooks than Xenforo so more flexible... Xenforo at the moment seems to be more secure..... So there are a lot to think before you compare both products... Also comparing the products by visiting the homepages of them is wrong !!!!!! We do not know what hardware they use. We do not know how they optimize each server. We do not know what caching methods they use and how they configure it. We do not know if anyone is using any Ram partition.. We do not know if they use Myisam or Innodb .... And i can type for days more and more as performance is not something that depends from one or two things... I hope to see soon Official IPB forum to use Nginx as it is a lot faster than Apache :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigPaws Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 In case it helps, it had been a lot faster for me browsing in Safari on the iPhone but today it seems sluggish again. The blue loading bar goes to about 1/5th and then seems to get stuck for ~10 seconds before page then loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey_M Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 It's already way faster than it was two weeks ago when we first applied beta on this site This is right.I had nothing but errors and slow, slow pages and now, at least for me its lightening fast. Faster than the old board here, it's actually very noticeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Modding Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Every single new version they come out with people (including me, usually) complain about speed. They do usually seem to get it a lot faster, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izaya Orihara Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 When they upgraded it was a bit slow but nowadays the software seems to work perfectly fine for me On the surface, Xenforo does seem a bit faster however with the excess of animations of Xenforo it does pose lag issues as well, especially on lower powered systems so tbh I find both XF and IPB to be equally adequate in speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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