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Actually, several clients were invited to a private feedback group and have been giving us feedback for the past several months on how best to re-approach Invision Community Classic. Our goal was to make self-hosting viable for the future.

But if I have a forum license, why do you have to FORCE me to pay more (from 110 to 199 per year), giving me applications like Pages, Commerce and Blog which honestly are garbage since you can get better results using other software?
In my project I use Forum and Gallery and honestly, Gallery is so poorly structured and neglected by your development that it is not worth buying. You should offer a light package, only forum.
I also have another project, an Italian support forum, invisionita, which is 13 years old. With these prices, it is becoming unsustainable for me to continue maintaining the project, translating the platform into Italian and helping with guides, etc. I cannot afford to pay $199 for unofficial Italian support.

I am a tad confused by this post. For someone like me that just wants to use the 'forums' portion and I currently pay $80 a year for self-hosted are you saying the price is going to increase per year now?

From this feature request, which is interesting, currently the IPS allows to set up a thumbnail. It would be nice that, just as WordPress does, there could be different image dimensions.
The original Optimized to a set up size and quality Middle thumbnail Small thumbnail Then, you choose which one you want to use.
For instance, for widgets, it should use the small thumbnail. Widgets currently use bigger images than they already need.  Picked up content would use middle thumbnail and the proper content, the optimized one.
The original would be saved just in case that you need full resolution or just if you want to re-create the "child" images.

Not to mention that you can monetize your site in many ways using Commerce. 

Cost of doing business I guess. But most of people like me cannot make switch as third party devs goes awol and their designs unsupported, add-ons broken. So would IPS take some decisions on making moves over this? It doesn't work if thirdy party devs fails to meet the requirements, unless one day we won't have any third party and all inhouse 🤔
 
Is this going to be different in case of yearly or same monthly rules apply? i.e. need to pay for missed year as well?
 
Frankly, as of now my overall cost for renewal for 3 licenses is abt 170-180$ I think,so about $360/yr, but if I make a switch that directly raises that to abt $600/yr. I ain't seeing any profits to me here + I keep an extra license just for my own development and testing activities with real users, so I get actual feedback for my major projects, so that license I may or may not renew for long period of time.

Maybe for you, and for people who have all the apps. But if customer X has only 'Forums', he will pay an additional $80 more for applications he will not use.

It would be perfect if we could pay with marketplace credit automatic, something like a button in Account Credit page and bum… it’s paid. I would jump right away!

Also, isn’t Downloads missing in this listing?

So now I pay $150 at every 6 months. With the new model, will I pay $199 per year? Is that right?

What about current customers?

Thanks, Charles. This is a serious change that should be described on a blog or in a dedicated topic.
For me and for many clients it is breaking news 😬

The ajax-based menu manager isn’t 100% reliable. I was making some changes to the menu and ended up loosing a parent entry for no apparent reason. And because all the child-entries were set for “one-time use only”, I lost the ability to add forums, gallery and downloads. 
It would be good to add some “self-healing” capabilities. For example, when the ACP menu manager is opened, check each entry and if necessary, reset them if they link to a non-existing parent. 

I think the issue is Pages pages without Pages databases put on them. 

The Record Image field in a Pages database provides the correct og image for external linking.
Just make sure the field is enabled in your Database (AdminCP > Pages > Your Database > Fields and then the ‘Record Image’ field under “Publish Fields”). Then, for each Page record, you just select Edit, find the image field, upload up it desired image to the field and then save. 🙂

Hi, I found that extension where someone created it for a different platform. @aXenDev said he was working on an app for IPS, Hopefully, it will be released soon.

I know it was announced depreciated for v5 but will this be fixed in 4.x with update to Twitter API v2.0? 

The above is correct, but if you are struggling with anything else, there is a full guide here
 
Its worth noting however, they will be asking you to update analytic to analytics 4, not your adsense

I think it would be a good solution if the V5 version had URL Replacements built into the engine not with external plugins. Something like WoltLab Suite has. Please think about it, because a lot of forums are foreign and have diacritics in links.

Hi IPS,
Can you add in upcoming updates ability to modify sidebar width per device type (under theme/settings)? Current layout design does not allow to override that particular CSS. Read why 
 

Because downloading it all is still going to block something else from loading. So by moving all the CSS to be pre-loaded, it's actually going to block things that should and would have downloaded first. Browsers are actually quite good at prioritising these days, so you can do more harm than good by messing with the order and preloading potentially large files that don't actually need to be pre-loaded.
In an ideal world the key CSS (eg the CSS needed to render the visible part of the page) would be pre-loaded or hard coded into the html. Just not all of it. 

Also think about this - if instead of this code
{{foreach array_unique( array_filter( \IPS\Output::i()->jsFiles ), SORT_STRING ) as $js}} {{$js = \IPS\Http\Url::external( $js );}} <script src='{{if $js->data['host'] == parse_url( \IPS\Settings::i()->base_url, PHP_URL_HOST )}}{expression="$js->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Output\Javascript::javascriptCacheBustKey() )"}{{else}}{expression="$js"}{{endif}}' data-ips></script> <{endforeach}} put this in include JS
{{foreach array_unique( array_filter( \IPS\Output::i()->jsFiles ), SORT_STRING ) as $js}} {{$js = \IPS\Http\Url::external( $js );}} <script src='{{if $js->data['host'] == parse_url( \IPS\Settings::i()->base_url, PHP_URL_HOST )}}{expression="$js->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Output\Javascript::javascriptCacheBustKey() )"}{{else}}{expression="$js"}{{endif}}' data-ips></script> <link rel="prefetch" href='{{if $js->data['host'] == parse_url( \IPS\Settings::i()->base_url, PHP_URL_HOST )}}{expression="$js->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Output\Javascript::javascriptCacheBustKey() )"}{{else}}{expression="$js"}{{endif}}'> {{endforeach}} speed indicators are improving sharply ...

I confess to myself - I have forgotten this topic... But there is one accidental, or not quite solution that I have found.
And here I am sharing it with you.
Open the Include CSS template
Find it
{{foreach array_unique( \IPS\Output::i()->cssFiles, SORT_STRING ) as $file}} <link rel='stylesheet' href='{expression="\IPS\Http\Url::external( $file )->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Theme::i()->cssCacheBustKey() )"}' media='all'> {{endforeach}} {{if \IPS\Dispatcher::i()->controllerLocation == 'front'}} {{$customCss = \IPS\Theme::i()->css( 'custom.css', 'core', 'front' );}} {{foreach $customCss as $css}} <link rel='stylesheet' href='{expression="\IPS\Http\Url::external( $css )->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Theme::i()->cssCacheBustKey() )"}' media='all'> {{endforeach}} {{endif}}
And replace code with
{{foreach array_unique( \IPS\Output::i()->cssFiles, SORT_STRING ) as $file}} <link rel='preload stylesheet' href='{expression="\IPS\Http\Url::external( $file )->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Theme::i()->cssCacheBustKey() )"}' as="style" media='all'> {{endforeach}} {{if \IPS\Dispatcher::i()->controllerLocation == 'front'}} {{$customCss = \IPS\Theme::i()->css( 'custom.css', 'core', 'front' );}} {{foreach $customCss as $css}} <link rel='preload stylesheet' href='{expression="\IPS\Http\Url::external( $css )->setQueryString( 'v', \IPS\Theme::i()->cssCacheBustKey() )"}' as="style" media='all'> {{endforeach}} {{endif}}
You will eliminate render blоcking CSS without much effort...
Of course, there are other little (hard to do) tricks for even better performance, but the above will also make you smile…

You just need to set up your server correctly, it's not just CSS/JS size. 
We have optimised our cloud platform to ensure CSS/JS is served via gzip and cached correctly and Google is more than happy with it.


Invision Community 5 is removing a lot of redundant JS and CSS, and eventually we want to remove things like jQuery, but it will be a process, so it won't be done for 5.0.0 (or we wouldn't release for another year!). Likewise, user generated content generates a lot of DOM elements and a broad platform such as a forum needs a lot of CSS and JS. 

But just setting up your server correctly will get you passing core web vitals and fetching a solid score on Page Speed tests.

Us too! 🙂