Max Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 A user said they don't want to see the thread preview when browsing on mobile. When I browse I don't see that. Here is what they see, Does anyone know how to turn the thread preview off? Also, the Who's Online numbers are WAY down since we moved. Is there a setting for how long it considers somebody online? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 That looks like they are looking at an activity stream. If that is the case, have them click on the icon in the top right of that page to flick to condensed view In terms of whos online, there is no difference in these. I remember you having redirects from an old URL. Have you ensured those are working? Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Faria Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Marc Stridgen said: That looks like they are looking at an activity stream. If that is the case, have them click on the icon in the top right of that page to flick to condensed view Nope, it’s the forum view. See this as a guest: https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/forum/528-invision-community-insider/ Probably there’s a setting somewhere in Forums app. Marc Stridgen and Max 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 21 hours ago, Marc Stridgen said: That looks like they are looking at an activity stream. If that is the case, have them click on the icon in the top right of that page to flick to condensed view In terms of whos online, there is no difference in these. I remember you having redirects from an old URL. Have you ensured those are working? Can you let me know what you mean on the redirects? Before the move to cloud hosting we would have hundreds of guests in who's online at all times. Now we have 20 or 30 it's a bit of a concern. Thanks. Oh and thanks for the help with the different forum views. That user is all set now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dll Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 It's because of the caching on the cloud - only the first guest every 10-15 minutes is counted, the rest hit the cache. G17 Media, Markus Jung and Max 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawPi Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Dll said: It's because of the caching on the cloud - only the first guest every 10-15 minutes is counted, the rest hit the cache. What caching? Could you elaborate? IPS changed it and removed guests caching, see: Quote Deprecations and Removal Announcements Completed in this release (....) Guest Page Cache removed (this is a legacy way to cache pages that replicates how a CDN works) - No action required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Faria Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, DawPi said: What caching? Could you elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawPi Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Adriano Faria said: This is what I've mentioned above 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Calvert Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 1 hour ago, DawPi said: What caching? Could you elaborate? IPS changed it and removed guests caching, see: If you log out of the site and look at the headers, you’ll see cloud sites use AWS Cloudfront CDN to cache not just images but also the base HTML pages if you are not logged in. It’s not being done within the software. DawPi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 This would indeed be our server side caching, rather than the traditional guest caching you were referring to above Dll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adriano Faria Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, DawPi said: This is what I've mentioned above 😉 7 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said: This would indeed be our server side caching, rather than the traditional guest caching you were referring to above Max and DawPi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 1, 2023 Author Share Posted June 1, 2023 Okay thanks for the technical explanation. But I guess my question now is, has anyone else mentioned this being a problem? I know it is a vanity # but it makes the site look smaller. it was always a good look showing 800 people logged in. Street cred kind of thing. Has anyone else been impacted by this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Calvert Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 When I moved, literally NO ONE commented on it. I did have comments about how the site was faster. And they LOVED the real time engagement features (who's viewing and who's typing). Small price to pay for better speed! By the way... it also helped my PageSpeed results a lot. 🙂 Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dll Posted June 1, 2023 Share Posted June 1, 2023 We saw a very similar thing with guest numbers much lower, but had no negative comments and I've not seen any negative results in terms of posts, active members etc. I think it's probably very much a vanity metric and not something to be too concerned about. Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 2, 2023 Author Share Posted June 2, 2023 9 hours ago, Randy Calvert said: When I moved, literally NO ONE commented on it. I did have comments about how the site was faster. And they LOVED the real time engagement features (who's viewing and who's typing). Small price to pay for better speed! By the way... it also helped my PageSpeed results a lot. 🙂 8 hours ago, Dll said: We saw a very similar thing with guest numbers much lower, but had no negative comments and I've not seen any negative results in terms of posts, active members etc. I think it's probably very much a vanity metric and not something to be too concerned about. Thanks. The vanity part is what I am having a hard time with. It just stinks to see the numbers go down that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Calvert Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Think of it this way… trading vanity for improved user experience is a LOW price to pay. Hahahaha I would gladly trade it any day to improve performance and search rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Jung Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Is there no way to show the real number of guests online? It could also be helpful/important to sell advertising etc. Max 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 59 minutes ago, Markus Jung said: Is there no way to show the real number of guests online? It could also be helpful/important to sell advertising etc. Not where items are cached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dll Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Markus Jung said: Is there no way to show the real number of guests online? It could also be helpful/important to sell advertising etc. I'd have thought you'd want to use something like Google analytics for this sort of thing, rather than relying on an arbitrary guest count. Stuart Silvester and Marc Stridgen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Jung Posted June 2, 2023 Share Posted June 2, 2023 Yes, I do have an analytics system in place. But still, the guest count is the first number that is seen publicly. SeNioR- and Max 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 3, 2023 Author Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Markus Jung said: Yes, I do have an analytics system in place. But still, the guest count is the first number that is seen publicly. That's the exact thought I have. I know the real numbers not worried about that at all. Others, even competitors, check the who's online and it looks like we lost 70% of our traffic. Markus Jung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 On 6/2/2023 at 11:17 AM, Markus Jung said: Yes, I do have an analytics system in place. But still, the guest count is the first number that is seen publicly. Yes, this is pretty bad for us. Looks like our forum is old and dying which isn't the case. Now that's at 4am when everyone is sleeping but still, it looks bad. Markus Jung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Jung Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Max said: Looks like our forum is old and dying which isn't the case. Same here. Activity has, in fact, declined a bit over the years, but not visitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dll Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Quote I really like this community with lots of active members and content that I'm interested in, but the guest count is far too low, so I won't return. Said literally no-one, ever. G17 Media and Randy Calvert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted June 10, 2023 Author Share Posted June 10, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 6:02 AM, Dll said: Said literally no-one, ever. Yes as I stated this is a vanity stat. But it is important advertisers check things like that. It is an issue. Competitors look too, and it is nice to get in their heads a bit. Markus Jung 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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