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rfcontreras Posted February 21, 2016 Posted February 21, 2016 Hi all, Trying to make Pages similar in usability as Joomla, I suggest to include more templates for database, categories and listing templates. The category listing template is really ugly, they're articles, not a blog! I suggest to include a) The "recipes" and "release notes" should be included as default in every IPB Pages installation. It will not harm to add a lot of ways to show the information. b) Category listing should have options like database's article template (category 3 column feature image). Some very nice things were done by users, why dont include them? c) Import/Export for data OR move content between databases. Pages has a lot of potential, good for the admin, but regarding look & feel you must learn template syntax to do something nice. Best Regards! socceronly, BomAle, AlexWebsites and 8 others 11
Neuro Posted November 7, 2016 Posted November 7, 2016 I completely agree with this. A good handful of different default templates out of the box would help wonders for new admins to see and understand the power of Pages, and what it can do. As well as save time creating their own pages from scratch, they can cut ideas out of one and paste it into another. Without some hand-holding, it's quite an intimidating application knowing it can do everything but not knowing where to begin. MMXII, kmk and SoloInter 3
Joel R Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 "A different article style" by @TAMAN I'd like to point out to any IPS representative who might read this topic that v4 has been out for one year, and yet the community has only managed to offer 1 community guide and 1 Marketplace purchase. There's clearly not enough community support or community innovation for what should be the most extensible app out of the suite, and that creates a steep learning curve for new admins who are uninitiated to Pages. I think even a handful of article block templates (like 4 - 6 different styles) can go a long ways towards helping non-technical admins put together some amazing pages. SoloInter, Nebthtet, KentT and 6 others 9
Wonster Posted November 8, 2016 Posted November 8, 2016 Yup, we want this! I speak for the rest of 99% inactive members Nebthtet, MelanieWildman, kmk and 2 others 5
kmk Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 Me too... Good for non-coding knowlege admin SoloInter and MelanieWildman 2
AlexWebsites Posted November 13, 2016 Posted November 13, 2016 I would agree that more templates included default would be good. I would also say that a few good front page templates would be great to see as well. Maybe share the https://invisionpower.com/ design or other responsive front page templates for beginners to get going. MelanieWildman, SoloInter and kmk 2 1
Nebthtet Posted January 14, 2018 Posted January 14, 2018 I'm gonna necro this topic and add that I totally agree with OP. Luckily @opentype started creating awesome templates but frankly speaking it would be good if there'd be more. SoloInter 1
kmk Posted January 15, 2018 Posted January 15, 2018 On 11/7/2016 at 3:03 AM, Neuro said: I completely agree with this. A good handful of different default templates out of the box would help wonders for new admins to see and understand the power of Pages, and what it can do. As well as save time creating their own pages from scratch, they can cut ideas out of one and paste it into another. Without some hand-holding, it's quite an intimidating application knowing it can do everything but not knowing where to begin. SoloInter 1
SoloInter Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 Complètement d'accord avec tout ce qui est dis Nebthtet 1
MMXII Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 On 7.11.2016 at 9:03 AM, Neuro said: A good handful of different default templates out of the box would help wonders for new admins to see and understand the power of Pages, and what it can do. I second this! Nebthtet 1
The Old Man Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) To be honest, its not like we haven't been patient! We've been waiting and asking for a variety of new Pages templates since v2! Why couldn't one of the IPS designers been tasked to create and release a few packs of free templates in the Marketplace, instead of us hoping for more to appear in a next major release? Agreed category view is terrible, I hate lists of records unless I need an actual list of records like in a table. Am I correct in thinking you can only have article style layout on one database at a time still? Edited January 19, 2018 by The Old Man Ramsesx, Buschiq and jair101 3
Marcher Technologies Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 4 hours ago, The Old Man said: Am I correct in thinking you can only have article style layout on one database at a time still? Fortunately, you are not. It's a per-database configuration and can be used on any database since 4.0. The Old Man 1
The Old Man Posted January 19, 2018 Posted January 19, 2018 Thanks @Marcher Technologies, have a donut! Joel R 1
SC36DC Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 On 11/7/2016 at 6:30 PM, Joel R said: "A different article style" by @TAMAN I'd like to point out to any IPS representative who might read this topic that v4 has been out for one year, and yet the community has only managed to offer 1 community guide and 1 Marketplace purchase. There's clearly not enough community support or community innovation for what should be the most extensible app out of the suite, and that creates a steep learning curve for new admins who are uninitiated to Pages. I think even a handful of article block templates (like 4 - 6 different styles) can go a long ways towards helping non-technical admins put together some amazing pages. We need a visual builder like Elementor in order to take full advantage of PAGES and be able to make anything our minds could imagine!
Daniel F Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 8 hours ago, SC36DC said: We need a visual builder like Elementor in order to take full advantage of PAGES and be able to make anything our minds could imagine! Something like this ? 🙂 It's not Elementor, but it heads to the right direction, or? 😉 SC36DC 1
Ibai Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 (edited) Hey @Daniel F are you planning to add a grid system just as Elementor does? That rows and column based on Bootstrap like 🙂 That, combined with the actual widget system, would be absolutly great! Edited April 21, 2020 by Ibai
Daniel F Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ibai said: Hey @Daniel F are you planning to add a grid system just as Elementor does? That rows and column based on Bootstrap like 🙂 That, combined with the actual widget system, would be absolutly great! Well, while it's not the same, we have a similar system in the background already;) You can already define the base template ( 1,2,3 columns ) while creating a page.
SC36DC Posted April 21, 2020 Posted April 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Daniel F said: Something like this ? 🙂 It's not Elementor, but it heads to the right direction, or? 😉 As I started watching the video, I laughed and my eyes watered at the same time. Why? Excitement! It's truly hard to fully compete with the likes of Elementor, Divi, or even WPBakery, but it's not impossible. You guys are definitely headed in the right direction. I was just going to ask, if it's possible to have 2 or 3 blocks side by side, so I can place images in each block, then I saw your comment ... 4 hours ago, Daniel F said: You can already define the base template ( 1,2,3 columns ) while creating a page. If I wanted just the top row to have 3 columns, then underneath that, 1 column, then under that, 2 columns, is that possible? If not, being able to customize the layout of a page like, pretty much like the page builders I mentioned would be incredible. Thanks for the amazing update. With so many negative things happening in 2020, 4.5 will surely be the highlight of the year. Ibai and BomAle 1 1
ZLTRGO Posted April 24, 2020 Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/21/2020 at 10:58 PM, SC36DC said: As I started watching the video, I laughed and my eyes watered at the same time. Why? Excitement! It's truly hard to fully compete with the likes of Elementor, Divi, or even WPBakery, but it's not impossible. You guys are definitely headed in the right direction. I was just going to ask, if it's possible to have 2 or 3 blocks side by side, so I can place images in each block, then I saw your comment ... If I wanted just the top row to have 3 columns, then underneath that, 1 column, then under that, 2 columns, is that possible? If not, being able to customize the layout of a page like, pretty much like the page builders I mentioned would be incredible. Thanks for the amazing update. With so many negative things happening in 2020, 4.5 will surely be the highlight of the year. ACP -> Pages -> Templates -> Page Templates -> Page Builder -> <div> <div class='ipsGrid ipsGrid_collapsePhone'> <div class='ipsGrid_span4'> </div> <div class='ipsGrid_span4'> </div> <div class='ipsGrid_span4'> </div> <div class='ipsGrid_span12'> </div> <div class='ipsGrid_span6'> </div> <div class='ipsGrid_span6'> </div> </div> </div> Would give you 3 columns in the first row 1 column in the second row 2 columns in the third row SoloInter and SC36DC 1 1
Jimi Wikman Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 I think what is missing are containers. In theory all you need is a few full width widget areas and then a system of containers and modules (blocks). This way I can add a container that have a 70/30 split in the columns to get content and sidebar. I can add a 3 column block inside the content container and then a 2+1 column block inside one of the 3 column containers...and so on. Right now you only have blocks so you have to hardcode the content, while a container + modules system would basically give you total freedom to create and use the pages widget system any way you can imagine. Basically a container would be kind of like a modular way to register new widget areas with predefined conditions (columns/rows) Does that make sense? SC36DC 1
SC36DC Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Jimi Wikman said: I think what is missing are containers. In theory all you need is a few full width widget areas and then a system of containers and modules (blocks). This way I can add a container that have a 70/30 split in the columns to get content and sidebar. I can add a 3 column block inside the content container and then a 2+1 column block inside one of the 3 column containers...and so on. Right now you only have blocks so you have to hardcode the content, while a container + modules system would basically give you total freedom to create and use the pages widget system any way you can imagine. Basically a container would be kind of like a modular way to register new widget areas with predefined conditions (columns/rows) Does that make sense? Sounds like you know you're way around the IPS system. Do you make tutorial videos? You would really be helping so many people to putting together videos explaining and showing how to do things. Thanks for replying.
BomAle Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 55 minutes ago, SC36DC said: Sounds like you know you're way around the IPS system. Do you make tutorial videos? You would really be helping so many people to putting together videos explaining and showing how to do things. Thanks for replying. take a look SC36DC 1
Jimi Wikman Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, SC36DC said: Sounds like you know you're way around the IPS system. Do you make tutorial videos? You would really be helping so many people to putting together videos explaining and showing how to do things. Thanks for replying. I dabble 🙂I don't do videos, but I can write tutorials if there is anything in particular you would like me to write about. @Matt @bfarber Do you think it would be possible to allow creation of blocks that contain widget areas for the purpose of creating building blocks rather than content blocks? I know the way Widgets work right now is a bit restricted in that regards, but maybe that could change a bit in the future? SC36DC and BomAle 2
SC36DC Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 From what I hear, PAGES is very powerful and flexible, but even after reading through the guides, it's still not so easy to grasp. We need more videos showing the absolut process from getting from point A to point Z. It could be a series of videos or one long one, but videos would help quite a bit, as long as they weren't rushed and everything was explained. Written guides can definitely help, especially if it's a guide on how to do something where this is no written info on it already. Quote In theory all you need is a few full width widget areas and then a system of containers and modules (blocks). Is it possible to do a guide better explaining this? Thanks @Jimi Wikman
Jimi Wikman Posted April 26, 2020 Posted April 26, 2020 Just now, SC36DC said: From what I hear, PAGES is very powerful and flexible, but even after reading through the guides, it's still not so easy to grasp. We need more videos showing the absolut process from getting from point A to point Z. It could be a series of videos or one long one, but videos would help quite a bit, as long as they weren't rushed and everything was explained. Written guides can definitely help, especially if it's a guide on how to do something where this is no written info on it already. Is it possible to do a guide better explaining this? Thanks @Jimi Wikman So a starter guide of sorts....I can do that 🙂 Right now we can't really create the make the containers because of the way widget areas are defined. You can hard code it of course to create specific blocks, kind of like I have done with my site for the sections: https://jimiwikman.se/management/https://jimiwikman.se/design/ It's the same content blocks for the hero and tabs, but they are duplicated and the variables are hard coded. If this was a container block then I could have a configuration that allowed me to change the values in the tabs for example or change the content in the hero (background image, text, buttons...). So, you can do pretty much anything you want with Pages, you just need to work more with static blocks than dynamic ones as in Elementor or Wordpress Gutenberg.
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