Midnight Modding Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I may travel to the future to check out 5.0 while others are waiting on 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimPappa Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Thats the problem, the already finished version 5.0, they put all their time in to that and fell behind on 4.0. I don't we are ready yet for what comes out in 5.0. Its compatable with the new apple iWatch, and Apple Glasses, and we don't know about those yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyPixels Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I'm loving all the new blog posts. Please keep them coming! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted February 20, 2014 Management Share Posted February 20, 2014 I am happy that the recent blog posts have silenced the :frantics: people in this topic :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Again, with a lack of communication in that respect, it puts IPS's clients in a questioning and negative space...they have to make business decisions, but they don't have enough information from IPS to make their decision relative to IPS's software and it's availability. So it just pushes them to think about alternatives, which to me, doesn't seem like a good way to ensure customer retention. And even worse, say they invest in developing in 3.x given the lack of communication, spend their budget and then 4.0 gets released with functionality they just spent on an inferior solution. Now you have completely turned off, pissed off, and disappointed your customer and also impacted their business' bottom line and strategy. Exxxactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 However I have no idea why I would wait to continue development simply due to (what comes next) out of IPB, imo doing that would not reflect my goals, but negate them. Must be nice to have unlimited time and budget for development so that you can do it all twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I appreciate that, but the issue is if IP discovered a bug and missed the scheduled release date. Everybody would be complaining about IPS 4.0 being delayed. However, they also need to understand that if they don't want IPS 4.0 to have the same fate as VBulletin (bug ridden), then they need to just wait. I appreciate that many would like a date - but let's be honest, it's better than if it was released buggy. If IPS released a bug free product every time under this policy... I might cut them some slack.... but they don't (nor am I expecting completely bug free) so "When it's ready" is really "When the damn thing doesn't completely crash, but still has some bugs" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Please, "next week" is not equivalent to "first day of next week". Besides, IPS staff in the US haven't even worked more than a few hours by now. They said the blog posts were already queued up... they do have a "schedule post" feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Rational are those who get things done, not those who wait for others to get their things done first. Rational are those who get things done once, not having to do things twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavillion Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 @CheersnGears, please use the Edit post option :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted February 20, 2014 Management Share Posted February 20, 2014 I am happy that the recent blog posts have silenced the :frantics: people in this topic :smile: I was wrong :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoo2000 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I am happy that the recent blog posts have silenced the :frantics: people in this topic :smile: Too soon. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted February 20, 2014 Management Share Posted February 20, 2014 If IPS released a bug free product every time under this policy... I might cut them some slack.... but they don't (nor am I expecting completely bug free) so "When it's ready" is really "When the damn thing doesn't completely crash, but still has some bugs" You discovered our secret strategy. It's not like we're spending time thinking through every feature, polishing every interface, benchmarking, reviewing client feedback, testing, re-testing, reconsidering feedback, and so on. We just don't want it to crash. That's it. I think most people would be shocked what's involved in developing a web app used by millions of people each day. I know whenever we hire new staff within a few days they say "wow it sure is a different world from the inside looking out." Right, Ryan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I was wrong :(I lol'd so hard. I need to stop browsing ips while at work. I'm gonna get caught not working. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 You discovered our secret strategy. It's not like we're spending time thinking through every feature, polishing every interface, benchmarking, reviewing client feedback, testing, re-testing, reconsidering feedback, and so on. We just don't want it to crash. That's it. Well... in between making "cute" comments about customers questions that have an effect on their businesses... I'm sure you would appreciate such a comment from your data center operator as much as I did.Posted 16 February 2014 - 06:21 PMI beta test it daily... does that count? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted February 20, 2014 Management Share Posted February 20, 2014 Actually along my same thought in my last reply we do a lot of reviewing client feedback then re-thinking it again later. We will implement something clients have requested then later say "well maybe this isn't what they really want." What I mean by that is a client may say "I want the ability to only allow people to comment on something once" and we add a setting to do that. Then later we say "oh... what the client really wants is a review system." It's the same idea as comments but then suddenly instead of making "comments" act like "reviews" you end up with a fully-featured, though-out, polished review system :smile: Of course now take a step back and think about all the time and effort that went into making that simple sentence I just typed go from concept to working system we can blog about. It's pretty amazing :smile: ... and don't forget that we have a policy that when we blog about something it's because it's working. We don't do mockups or tech demos like some places. When we show you something it's real. Sure it might mean we take longer to post it but when we do you can be confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted February 20, 2014 Management Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well... in between making "cute" comments about customers questions that have an effect on their businesses... I'm sure you would appreciate such a comment from your data center operator as much as I did. I can see how you would perceive that but when people ask the same question over and over just because they don't like the answer then all I have left is my adorable nature. I cannot shut it off. I'm like a puppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ian Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I was wrong :sad: have you not learnt anything in the last 12 years ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted February 20, 2014 Management Share Posted February 20, 2014 have you not learnt anything in the last 12 years ;) I learned to keep comfort chocolate within arms reach on my desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I was wrong :sad: Well, so is the policy of no timeline releases. So it looks like you can't help it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Well, so is the policy of no timeline releases. So it looks like you can't help it.Shots fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheersnGears Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Shots fired. he started it :tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clover13 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Are you gonna share that chocolate? :drool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhett Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Doesn't seem as though anyone has read the 'Announcement' at the top the forum from Charles: Quote - http://community.invisionpower.com/forum-486/announcement-30-what-new-in-ips-community-suite-40/ So looks like we're going to be in April/May from that announcement. :tongue: Well, so is the policy of no timeline releases. So it looks like you can't help it. Look up, that should be more than enough information to make a business decision. :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexsplosions Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Look up, that should be more than enough information to make a business decision. :smile: I am looking up but my ceiling is leaving me in despair. It hasn't been painted in years. Please help. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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