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3 minutes ago, Paul E. said:

One flares at the end, the other is mostly in the front.

41 minutes ago, DesignzShop said:

One of the biggest compliments and most feedback I've gotten is how the post profiles stand out.

This sounds interesting. Would you be able/willing to post a screenshot of how posts look with your modifications?

On 10/6/2020 at 3:40 PM, bfarber said:

We recommend Cloudfront from Amazon rather than Cloudflare. It behaves similarly and can improve performance (it is leveraged automatically for all of our Community In The Cloud accounts).

Any specific reason why you recommend Cloudfront over Cloudflare?

This is the support topic for the plugin Customize New Member Badge.

12 hours ago, Runar said:

I have created a simple (and free) plugin to change the icon, change how long a member is considered new, or disable the badge completely. Hopefully the plugin will be approved and available shortly.

The plugin is available!

As mentioned earlier in the topic, there is a bug when sending private messages to members after X hours. If you set the message to send immediately after signup, nothing bad happens. If you set any delay, it will send the message to everyone.

This is a bug, not a missing option. I just hope @Michael.J responds soon, as this can be quite serious.

I have created a simple (and free) plugin to change the icon, change how long a member is considered new, or disable the badge completely. Hopefully the plugin will be approved and available shortly.

What’s new in version 2.0.0:

17 minutes ago, Matt said:

Thanks, I've fixed those links in the descriptions.

Thank you! Any comment on the SSL issue?

I've been using MariaDB for years, and I've never had any issues, and I don't think I had to make any adjustments when installing Invision Community.

Just to be safe, I advice you to take a closer look at the official MariaDB vs. MySQL page from MariaDB, which includes an incompatibilities list.

Any comment, @Matt or @Lindy? Surely this can't be an issue limited to only a few unlucky visitors. SSL Labs marked the certificate as invalid from four different servers, and other SSL testing tools did the same.

I understand that you might not be able to reproduce the security warnings, but there are clearly some issues with the certificate or your load balancing setup.

If I accept the security risk (in Firefox) and continue, I no longer see the warning. Maybe everyone at IPS has already accepted the certificate?

Anyways, the certificate on community.invisionpower.com is not valid. See the test results from SSL Labs:

Edit: The actual test results:

I don't know if this is the right place to report bugs with this community, but here goes.

Links in the descriptions for the following forums point to an old domain (community.invisionpower.com), resulting in security warnings and in one case a 404 error:

• https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/forum/320-client-lounge/
• https://invisioncommunity.com/forums/forum/442-contributor-chat/

The links in questions are:

• http://community.invisionpower.com/forum/307-ips-customer-services/
• http://community.invisionpower.com/forum/451-community-resources/ (dead)
• http://community.invisionpower.com/contributors/

33 minutes ago, Dll said:

If you need a period of testing, then the beta releases are a good place to start, surely? Assuming when you say testing, you mean creating a test forum, copying the database etc. 

Creating a test forum and copying the production database is not that simple when you've got tens of millions of rows in several of the database tables. Not to mention the test environment should be as close to the production environment as possible, which might require additional expensive hardware. All this requires someone to do the work, and in many cases it ends up being a question about who pays for what (and what is pushed to the back of the queue due to money going to testing). In an optimal scenario testing would be the norm and money wouldn't be an issue, but unfortunately this is not always the case.

37 minutes ago, Dll said:

The argument about not wanting to update is a dangerous one - where do draw the line? Do you want to keep a version of php on your server with security exploits, do you want to keep a version of forum software running which may not be getting security updates and so on? When it comes to your iphone, it's your choice and affects only you should there be some sort of security issue or things not working as expected. When you're running a web server, it's a bigger responsibility since you're looking after all of your users too.

I don't know where to draw the line myself. I understand your points of view and I agree with most of them, so I might be playing the devil's advocate here. PHP and other server software can be patched without updating to newer full releases. In some cases there are patches released for Invision Community as well, and the most serious security issues would be disclosed so one could – though not recommended – manually fix the security issues without updating. With that being said, the best and simplest thing is to update.

42 minutes ago, Dll said:

I'm guessing if you publicised the fact that due to the fact you've not got round to what could be vital upgrades, you may be using out of date software (and not just invision, potentially) which could have security implications, your members may not be especially happy?

I honestly don't think most members of online communities care. If you know what Invision Community is, you'll quickly recognize communities running on older versions, at least on versions 4.4 and earlier. The differences in functionality and design are quite significant, even on communities using custom themes. All members care about is performance and functionality, and that nothing breaks when something is updated. I also don't think someone is trying to hide the fact that they're not using the most recent version.

I would just like to add that I personally try to update (all software) as soon as possible after a new release. What I'm trying to say here is that I understand why some don't update immediately, and that I get the most common reasons for not doing so. I don't disagree with you that the banner is not the main issue. What I meant with my original comment was that Rhett's wording could have been better, as the causes of many not updating immediately is known, but not necessarily quickly resolved.

8 minutes ago, PoC2 said:

Wow, they hardcoded this in without an option. Oh dear.

Well, the option is to edit the theme. But yes, maybe it should be an option somewhere, as not everyone is comfortable manually editing the theme.

The relevant code is on lines 45–47 in the theme file forums > front > topics > postContainer:

			{{elseif $comment->author()->joinedRecently()}}
			<span class="cAuthorPane_badge cAuthorPane_badge--new" data-ipsTooltip title="{lang="member_is_new_badge" sprintf="$comment->author()->name"}"></span>
			{{endif}}

I've kept the badge, but changed it to something a bit more positive:

/* Change the icon for new members */
.cAuthorPane_badge--new::before {
	content: "\f25b";
}

Which results in this:

2 minutes ago, Dll said:

To be fair, you've had a long time to test - the beta process went on for months, and the full release has been available for over a month now too. So, if you've not got round to it yet then that's still the issue, rather than an admin banner being visible.

You're correct, and personally I'd like to see the community I referred to updated more frequently. However, updating during the beta period is not really an option, as things change quite often and things can and will break.

Another point is that some updates require you to make changes on the server side. For instance, 4.5 recommends PHP version 7.4 and future versions of Invision Community will drop support for older versions of PHP. Yes, I know PHP 7.2 is three years old and that you should keep your servers up to date as well, but realistically that's not always possible.

Finally — and this is something I don't think anyone can argue against — some people simply don't want to update. Apple doesn't force their users to update their iPhones and iPads to the latest version of iOS. Sure, they recommend it and more and more apps will stop working on older versions of iOS, but you don't get a banner taking up half the screen everywhere if you're on an older version.

On 10/13/2020 at 2:08 AM, Bocar said:

I'm back with this request.

Did you ever get this done, or are you still looking for a solution?

11 minutes ago, imsandertjeee said:

Bump, still looking.

I sent you a PM now! 🙂

On 10/16/2020 at 7:04 AM, Rhett said:

If you can't upgrade for some reason, we would recommend you find the cause of that and resolve it so you can.

As others have already mentioned, it's not always that simple. I help manage one of the larger communities, with over 25 million posts running on multiple servers, and upgrading to a new version involves long periods of testing. When we actually do upgrade, it's a complicated process to prevent messing something up for our thousands of members.

I completely understand that you want everyone to be using the most recent version, but there are several valid reasons for not upgrading immediately after a new release.

4 minutes ago, Ausy said:

There are possible alternatives. Mark Topic for 4.4 works ok on 4.5

I'd just like to add that I'm currently working on a huge update for 4.5, hopefully to be released later this weekend or early next week.

27 minutes ago, Square Wheels said:

One of my sites is about clinical pathology.  One vendor was being sued by another vendor over price fixing.  They felt my site may have discussed these two vendors and their price fixing schemes (we hadn't) and the offended vendor subpoenaed my database.  Not a big deal, I just sent them a copy of the database.

Thank you for the explanation! I assume you're not in the EU, as sending a copy of the database to a third-party would be a rather big deal for me. With that being said, I understand your decision.

On 10/12/2020 at 11:02 PM, Square Wheels said:

I've been sued once and was required to turn over my database, I'm sure it can happen again.

I'm interested in hearing more about this. Is this something you can and want to talk about?

For everyone else, I'm currently working on a huge update with support for 4.5. The new version will be an application instead of a plugin, as this makes it far easier to provide new functionality.

In addition to official support for 4.5, I'm working on the following new features:

• Choose between multiple markers when marking a topic.
• Set custom background color and text color on the marker badges.
• Choose marker badge position (before or after topic title).
• Send notifications to topic starters when their topics are marked and/or unmarked.
• Support for "Questions" forums.

I hope to release the new version later this week or early next week.

Suggestions for more features are always welcome!