Grafidea Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 It would be useful to optimize ips for display speed. the result is very poor on mobile devices. virap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Face Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 I agree. I get horrible results on localhost. I'll probably get a better score inside the live enviroment after optimizing everything, but still. Grafidea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
virap Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I agree, speed improvement would be very welcome addition. Grafidea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafidea Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 The result on mobile devices is very poor. will the team do something in this direction? SeNioR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 We are of course always making speed improvements on the platform. Note however that many improvements will come from server related performance, rather than the software. That's not to say there wont be areas in the software too, of course. But server environments will tend to be the biggest hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafidea Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 I have best VPS server. php 8.0.14, redis on, and give 512MB php memory limit. Desktop ist good 96/100 points, mobile device 50-60 points. The mobile version should be optimized. Ibai, Hostingunlock and SeNioR- 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runar Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said: Note however that many improvements will come from server related performance, rather than the software. While this is true, most of the "opportunities" presented by PageSpeed Insights are things I have little or no control over, such as eliminating render-blocking resources and removing unused JavaScript and CSS. These improvements will have to come from you, though I imagine they would require insane amounts of work and are therefor not prioritized. I know these numbers will depend on a lot of factors, but I think they speak of an underlying issue – not as in something you've done wrong, but something that's hard to "fix": When viewing the front page on my community, 77% of root_framework.js and 92% of framework.css is unused. When viewing a topic, the numbers are 74% of root_framework.js and 89% of framework.css. Given the required time and resources, these files and the rest of the scripts and style sheets could be massively optimized, which in turn will benefit everyone, especially mobile visitors. Luuuk and Ibai 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc Stridgen Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 It would be worth also taking a look at the following https://invisioncommunity.com/news/invision-community/whats-new-in-460-r1229/page/2/?tab=comments#comment-221539 Runar, SeNioR- and Markus Jung 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafidea Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 I have gzip on SeNioR- 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeNioR- Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Runar said: When viewing the front page on my community, 77% of root_framework.js and 92% of framework.css is unused. When viewing a topic, the numbers are 74% of root_framework.js and 89% of framework.css. Given the required time and resources, these files and the rest of the scripts and style sheets could be massively optimized, which in turn will benefit everyone, especially mobile visitors. This is the worst. I hope that IPS will "somehow" optimize it, although I know it will not be easy. Ibai, Grafidea and Luuuk 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, SeNioR- said: This is the worst. I hope that IPS will "somehow" optimize it, although I know it will not be easy. The default theme is well structured (there is still room for improvement) so IPS have done a great job. Each site contains various customizations, 3rd party add-ons, applications, etc. - so the owner is responsible for optimizing the site. It's the same with a new and powerful car. Some learn to drive it well and find a good way to feel the pulse and speed of their car. Who does not want or can not learn to hire a driver ...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runar Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Adlago said: It's the same with a new and powerful car. Some learn to drive it well and find a good way to feel the pulse and speed of their car. Who does not want or can not learn to hire a driver ...😉 I can buy a bulldozer with 1,000 horsepower, but unless my name is Jeremy Clarkson, it’s impossible for me to make it as fast as a Bugatti. IveLeft... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeNioR- Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 @Adlago 8 minutes ago, Adlago said: The default theme is well structured I know that, I am a designer myself 😉 My point is that many lines of CSS and JS code are not used at all (on the homepage and elsewhere) hence such poor performance on mobile devices in the PageSpeed test Ibai, Luuuk, Grafidea and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 30 minutes ago, SeNioR- said: @Adlago I know that, I am a designer myself 😉 My point is that many lines of CSS and JS code are not used at all (on the homepage and elsewhere) hence such poor performance on mobile devices in the PageSpeed test A combination of critical CSS, preload CSS external and prefetch JS overcomes many of the negatives. At the moment I reach 90 points for mobile speed on my site, but as you will guess, I keep digging ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Face Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, SeNioR- said: This is the worst. I hope that IPS will "somehow" optimize it, although I know it will not be easy. I don't think it's too hard to do. Tools that do exactly this already exist and are used in the most modern javascript frameworks such as NextJS. https://purgecss.com/ SeNioR- and Grafidea 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ghost Face said: I don't think it's too hard to do. Tools that do exactly this already exist and are used in the most modern javascript frameworks such as NextJS. https://purgecss.com/ This may be great if you optimize your home page, but when you load another page from your site you will be surprised by a bad view. If you have to use this tool for every page, you will simply get lost in your CSS. The tool developer of the Chrome browser also has a quick assessment of unused CSS, but due to considerations I wrote above, I personally gave up using it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Face Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Adlago said: This may be great if you optimize your home page, but when you load another page from your site you will be surprised by a bad view. If you have to use this tool for every page, you will simply get lost in your CSS. The tool developer of the Chrome browser also has a quick assessment of unused CSS, but due to considerations I wrote above, I personally gave up using it ... If this would be the case, it wouldn't be a standard in modern JS frameworks. At least I can't think of any popular framework that doesn't use it, or a mix of PostCSS and PurgeCSS. Very big CSS Framework like Tailwind, Bootstrap and Bulma even recommend this approach unless you want to end up having CSS files with several megabytes. I don't understand why you think you'd get lost in your CSS. Nothing changes at how or where you write your CSS. The only thing that changes is how much of your CSS you deliver to your users. Loading another page also wouldn't be a problem since you could simply prefetch any missing CSS files or properties by hovering over a page link for example. Edited January 13, 2022 by Ghost Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dll Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 You could look at running mod_pagespeed to automate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Ghost Face said: If this would be the case, it wouldn't be a standard in modern JS frameworks. At least I can't think of any popular framework that doesn't. Very big CSS Framework like Tailwind, Bootstrap and Bulma even recommend this approach unless you want to end up having CSS files with several megabytes. I don't understand why you think you'd get lost in your CSS. Nothing changes at how or where you write your CSS. The only thing that changes is how much of your CSS you deliver to your users. Loading another page also wouldn't be a problem since you could simply prefetch any missing CSS files or properties by hovering over a page link for example. Well, yes, you try, maybe you will do it so that the community is grateful to you. The optimization process is not something simple and easy - you put some code and you're done. It's only in a fantasy movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafidea Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 I have a default template and a score of 50-60 mobile device, desktop 96 score. At least the mobile version should be optimized. Most people now use mobile devices, not computers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Face Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Adlago said: Well, yes, you try, maybe you will do it so that the community is grateful to you. The optimization process is not something simple and easy - you put some code and you're done. It's only in a fantasy movie. Who said it was simple and easy? I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but optimization is indeed taking code and improving it. Anyways, I'm going to let you dwell in your comfortable bubble. Not a fan of such negativity! ✌️ Edited January 13, 2022 by Ghost Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adlago Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ghost Face said: Anyways, I'm going to let you dwell in your comfortable bubble. Not a fun of such negativity! ✌️ Reality is not fun, but with a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafidea Posted January 13, 2022 Author Share Posted January 13, 2022 IPS is commercial not open source. Either way, they will have to optimize what the internet and the future require 😃 SUBRTX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patreon Lukazuki Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 overall not bad, compared to what was on the previous ips versions, actually, there is an improvement, only this mobile version lags behind a lot 🤐 Grafidea and Hostingunlock 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grafidea Posted January 14, 2022 Author Share Posted January 14, 2022 The result on the computer is very good, polish the mobile version a bit and it will be great! We are counting on the IPS team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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