Popular Post Adriano Faria Posted November 23, 2016 Popular Post Posted November 23, 2016 I got an extra field in Downloads, for example (this is a model, happens in any app), with option to search: Then I got a file with this field filled: But when I search for something or here, I got nothing: Also tried to search for: here "something here" something here something+ here+ How it should be? Exactly like PROFILE FIELDS on Members search: Those two (yelllow) fields are profile fields, so the user can search for them. That doesn't happen on Extra Fields model. My Extra Field do not appear in the Advanced Search form: No sign of the Extra Field there. What's the point in allow the user to add a bunch of extra fields and do not retrieve records based on them? I would like to request the addition of Extra Fields in the Advanced Search form, when the app uses it. Thank you. Tracy Perry, BomAle, Heyhoe and 24 others 26 1
Tracy Perry Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Agreed, if the field is important enough to be collected, it should be important enough to be able to be searched upon. It is very limiting to not allow that and defeats the purpose of custom fields. Speedo, svit, PrettyPixels and 7 others 10
LiquidFractal Posted November 24, 2016 Posted November 24, 2016 I'm sensing a pattern in recent posts, and that pattern is: IPS Search could definitely use a major upgrade. clubedomarea, KentT, AlexJ and 7 others 10
Prank Posted November 25, 2016 Posted November 25, 2016 Putting my weight in here also. I'm using Google Custom Search (CSE) on my site now as the built-in search is just terrible and the search result page was high on my sites Exit Pages. Adding to this the inability to search extra fields is just absurd and creates a strangle hold on a community market place that IPS are so keen to build up and improve. LiquidFractal, Speedo, SJ77 and 2 others 5
Ohio Guns Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 Agree completely. I have some fields in an application that need to be searxhable. Adriano Faria, PPlanet, Tracy Perry and 2 others 5
PPlanet Posted November 28, 2016 Posted November 28, 2016 My upgrade to IPS 4 depends on this pretty much. Until then I will push forward with 3.4. SJ77 1
Haku2 Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 @LindyI believe you were looking for feedback on how the search utility could be improved and this topic provides at least some very important insight on how some aspects of the utility could be improved. If you could take a peek in here and forward this concern to the development team for review and discussion, it would be greatly appreciated. Adriano Faria, Prank, PPlanet and 4 others 7
Tom_K Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 IPS4 has some areas that really need a little TLC from the devs. While the recent new features in 4.1.17 are great, I believe there are bigger issue to be resolved first. This being one of them. Adriano Faria, DSystem, AlexJ and 1 other 4
SJ77 Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 Search Functionality as a topic is blowing up. So many folks politely asking for this to be addressed soon. Lindy just said something about it not being addressed until next year. At first I thought GRRRRR, then I remembered... it's December LOL DSystem, Adriano Faria and AlexJ 3
Adriano Faria Posted December 5, 2016 Author Posted December 5, 2016 Just now, superj707 said: At first I thought GRRRRR, then I remembered... it's December LOL The problem is that "next year" also goes until december. AlexJ, TSP and SJ77 3
SJ77 Posted December 5, 2016 Posted December 5, 2016 Just now, Adriano Faria said: The problem is that "next year" also goes until december. D'oh!!!!! AlexJ 1
Management Lindy Posted December 6, 2016 Management Posted December 6, 2016 Some of this is actually quite a large engineering task. Improved app searching through Commerce, Pages, etc. is definitely something that will be addressed and I know at a user-level, this seems like a no-brainer, but to allow IPS4 to do things like the activity stream and advanced search across all apps simultaneously, it utilizes a search index... this means data is aggregated into a single table for efficient-esque access. It's not efficient, in its current architecture, to dump everything in Pages, custom Downloads fields, etc. within it as well. So, there are a couple of ideas being discussed internally that need to be vetted, POC'd and benchmarked before being considered further. It will happen in due course. Our focus right now is on engagement -- things like reputation, keeping people active, etc. We'll likely be getting into enhanced search (yes, including external search engine support) by summer. Prank, AndyF, BomAle and 1 other 4
Prank Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 2 minutes ago, Lindy said: Some of this is actually quite a large engineering task. Improved app searching through Commerce, Pages, etc. is definitely something that will be addressed and I know at a user-level, this seems like a no-brainer, but to allow IPS4 to do things like the activity stream and advanced search across all apps simultaneously, it utilizes a search index... this means data is aggregated into a single table for efficient-esque access. It's not efficient, in its current architecture, to dump everything in Pages, custom Downloads fields, etc. within it as well. So, there are a couple of ideas being discussed internally that need to be vetted, POC'd and benchmarked before being considered further. It will happen in due course. Our focus right now is on engagement -- things like reputation, keeping people active, etc. We'll likely be getting into enhanced search (yes, including external search engine support) by summer. You guys could always re-implement Sphinx. Wouldn't that do all of this out of the box?
Management Lindy Posted December 6, 2016 Management Posted December 6, 2016 Just now, Prank said: You guys could always re-implement Sphinx. Wouldn't that do all of this out of the box? No. There are still engineering challenges to overcome. Sphinx (or similar) would, however, improve the resource overhead and lead to better results. We are doing, as I mentioned, external search, but it will most likely be Elasticsearch - not Sphinx. Prank 1
Prank Posted December 6, 2016 Posted December 6, 2016 1 minute ago, Lindy said: No. There are still engineering challenges to overcome. Sphinx (or similar) would, however, improve the resource overhead and lead to better results. We are doing, as I mentioned, external search, but it will most likely be Elasticsearch - not Sphinx. Either works for me. Thanks Lindy.
Adriano Faria Posted December 6, 2016 Author Posted December 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Lindy said: ...but to allow IPS4 to do things like the activity stream and advanced search across all apps simultaneously, it utilizes a search index... this means data is aggregated into a single table for efficient-esque access. It's not efficient, in its current architecture, to dump everything in Pages, custom Downloads fields, etc. within it as well. So, there are a couple of ideas being discussed internally that need to be vetted, POC'd and benchmarked before being considered further. I don't think this is necessary, at least for now. You can do a widget, just like Pages has, to filter records on category view. That will certainly improve things.
Adriano Faria Posted December 29, 2016 Author Posted December 29, 2016 On 06/12/2016 at 6:37 AM, Adriano Faria said: I don't think this is necessary, at least for now. You can do a widget, just like Pages has, to filter records on category view. That will certainly improve things. Any word here, @Lindy? Will at least be taken into consideration and discussed internally? Thank you. Simon Woods and PPlanet 2
Simon Woods Posted August 13, 2017 Posted August 13, 2017 Hopefully the work on improving search has very much begun and the issues Adriano raised are included. BomAle, PPlanet, SJ77 and 1 other 4
PrettyPixels Posted October 6, 2017 Posted October 6, 2017 Adding my +1 to this as well. We definitely need search for custom fields. PPlanet 1
DSystem Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 On 05/12/2016 at 8:05 PM, Adriano Faria said: O problema é que "ano que vem" também vai até dezembro. We are already in the "Next year" and for December is very little.
PPlanet Posted October 7, 2017 Posted October 7, 2017 14 hours ago, PrettyPixels said: Adding my +1 to this as well. We definitely need search for custom fields. Apart from several and diverse individual needs to do this people may have, it occurs to me that this shortcoming is also holding Pages from achieving its best potential. I really need this badly for a third app I have on the forums; however, I run IPB for my forums, blogs, etc (still 3.4 and waiting on this precisely so I can upgrade), then I run a directory on Joomla (using SobiPro), and a splash page on Wordpress matching the look of the Joomla one, but giving me a bit more flexibility for SEO purposes. (Maybe a bit overkill when my forums subdomain cannibalize any SEO attempts as it is the most popular one, but never mind that) My wish is not having to run a website that consists of 3 completely different pieces of software any longer, and I'd be happy happy to do the whole lot with IPS (and maybe move all just to the top domain). However, while I'm sure that you must be able to build a directory using Pages (or maybe Pages and other apps too), you cannot have a directory where users can search by attributes if you cannot search custom fields (yes, you have tags, but I think it's not quite the same). So, I really hope this functionality is back with IPS 4.3. PrettyPixels 1
Linguica Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 It is baffling to me that when creating a custom field in the AdminCP it explicitly tells you you can search on it, despite the fact that this functionality apparently just doesn't exist, at all. Considering that this was one of the aspects I felt I really needed while evaluating the software before purchase, this sort of misinformation is really really frustrating.
Joel R Posted November 29, 2017 Posted November 29, 2017 It's coming in 4.3 if not sooner. Sources have alreadd stated search will be a big area of enhancement. Lindy 1
DReffects2 Posted November 28, 2018 Posted November 28, 2018 Looks like i still cannot search custom fields which makes the whole pages custom databases pretty much useless... Any update on this? Allegheny 1
AlexJ Posted September 9, 2019 Posted September 9, 2019 2019! This is much required. Even Apple or any good website will have more filter option so that users can filter out search fast! Example - My website has this custom options for 1 category Maps - but sadly - it's of no use at all for end user because they CANNOT search using it. It's like i have data through which users can search for what they want easily.. but none of that will work because after 3 years this functionality is not implemented! Please do something about this. PPlanet and Adriano Faria 2
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