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bronco93 Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 I know the settings were Admin CP --> System --> System Settings --> Forums --> Trash Can Setup on IPB 3.1, but thats not the case on IPB 3.2, I cannot find one in the search either, does it not exist anymore :( Thanks.
bronco93 Posted August 10, 2011 Author Posted August 10, 2011 Oh, bad choice :( I guess thats been replaced with the option to leave a post visible to staff then.
CrossFire-Radio Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 Why not just create a new forum, set for Admin only, and dump old posts in there? Thats what I did.. call it "trash posts" or something like that.
Mellisa Posted August 10, 2011 Posted August 10, 2011 i like the trash feature, really, according to my forum it is a must feature! and it should be returned. 3.2 took more than it gave to me
Axel Wers Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 I think new solution with deleted topics in ModCP is better. My personal opinion. Generally ModCP feature has been great improvement and that panel is good place for removed content.
Dmacleo Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 advantages to both ways depending on how the board is used. the present setup needs a third action added, move to designated trashcan forum.
Axel Wers Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 Why have another forum in addition when the almost same we have in ModCP?
Dmacleo Posted September 17, 2011 Posted September 17, 2011 again it comes down to the forum owners needs. this topic has been hashed out here many times with reasons presented each time.
Will Munny Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 Previously, anything in the trash can returned a 404 header... Now, in 3.2, anything in the trash can returns a 403 header... This is a critical SEO mistake and IPS didn't think this through very well... I need 404 (or better still, 410) headers returned for anything in the trash can. How can I achieve this with a hot fix?
Rhett Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 Previously, anything in the trash can returned a 404 header... Now, in 3.2, anything in the trash can returns a 403 header... This is a critical SEO mistake and IPS didn't think this through very well... I need 404 (or better still, 410) headers returned for anything in the trash can. How can I achieve this with a hot fix? Are you seriously worried about SEO on a deleted thread? If it's important to your site.... why are you deleting it? I can count on two hands how many threads I have deleted in the last year on my sites. (other than a spam thread here and there)
Kessler Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 How can I achieve this with a hot fix? A 'hot fix' would only be available if it were considered a bug and instructions to correct it were made available. What you're looking for is to change the designed behavior, so you're looking for a mod. As for what you believe it should be doing, please post that in the IP.Board feedback forum. That's where the developers read peoples feature requests as well as concerns with existing features/functions.
Will Munny Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 Are you seriously worried about SEO on a deleted thread? If it's important to your site.... why are you deleting it? I can count on two hands how many threads I have deleted in the last year on my sites. (other than a spam thread here and there) That's your forum. We keep ALL deleted threads and posts forever, as it's useful to use to have a record of IPs that abused our community. Also, difficult members that keep returning can often be identified by their posting style/grammatical errors etc etc... the point is, the previous trash can system DID have a purpose, and that was to serve the appropriate header for deleted content... serving the correct header information is really basic stuff and I should have to be explaining it in here.
Michael Posted October 20, 2011 Posted October 20, 2011 You still can keep all deleted topics and posts forever, the new Deleted Content section in 3.2 didn't change that. If it's reporting an improper header now, though, report that as a bug.
Will Munny Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Yes, it does indeed produce a 404 if it's made soft-delete... Thanks for pointing that out... However, it should be made clear to legacy customers that if the trash can is hidden to guests (with permissions), the 403 will override the 404. This is why it wasn't working for me. Thanks again.
Collin S. Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 If you guys *really* want trash can forums... Create a new multi-moderation called "Move To Trashcan". have it move it to the trash. Same number of clicks.
Will Munny Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 Collin, the point is that you now can't have the trash forum hidden from view... if you hide it with permissions, a 403 header is produced instead of a 404... so you have to make the trash forum a public forum for it to throw a 404 for the topics within it. I've got around this by blocking the trash forum in robot.txt with the following wildcard...Disallow: /*84-trash-can/$
bassangler Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 We delete stuff all the time on our site (lot's of spam, mostly). If your site fills up with 403 errors, then you'll take a major hit from the search engines. This is a MAJOR issue. Quite frankly, I'm shocked it's taken so lightly by the staff. This needs to be addressed and fixed immediately.
Aisha Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 If you guys *really* want trash can forums... Create a new multi-moderation called "Move To Trashcan". have it move it to the trash. Same number of clicks.Does the same thing work for posts?
Management Matt Posted October 21, 2011 Management Posted October 21, 2011 That's your forum. We keep ALL deleted threads and posts forever, as it's useful to use to have a record of IPs that abused our community. Also, difficult members that keep returning can often be identified by their posting style/grammatical errors etc etc... the point is, the previous trash can system DID have a purpose, and that was to serve the appropriate header for deleted content... serving the correct header information is really basic stuff and I should have to be explaining it in here. admin/applications/forums/sources/classes/forums/class_forums.php Line 968 (just search for '103137')$this->registry->getClass('output')->showError( 'forums_no_view_topic', 103137, null, null, 404 );
Axel Wers Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I like current feature, deleted content in ModCP. If you put Trash Can back, don't remove current features in ModCP.
Management Matt Posted October 21, 2011 Management Posted October 21, 2011 We're not putting the trash can back :) I merely meant about fixing the header code.
Aisha Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I like current feature, deleted content in ModCP. If you put Trash Can back, don't remove current features in ModCP.I kind of like it too just I want to be able to search through it.
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