Brett B

I have had one positive comment about the new board. The rest have been nothing but complaints about view new content. I can assure you, if there had not been a change to VNP I would have members doing cartwheels and raving about the board.

This silly change has ruined a good forum. Needlessly, and no one seems to give a crap.

Same here, I have large site (1.6 million posts) and the "View New Content" issues are going to be a nightmare for me. I love most of what has been done with 3.0.0, but this one issue just boggles my mind as far as the changes made. I've posted extensively on this in the past, but Invision has been very resistant on making significant changes. Some improvements were made to the "View New Content" output to add in some of the information that was removed, but overall it's still a far cry from the 2.3.6 "View New Posts" feature and it's just going to aggravate the heck out of my userbase. I just want it to work like it did with 2.3.6--show me any new posts since my last visit, and show the same amount of information in a tabular format as before. I am not adverse to change by any means, but the changes that were made just seem like they were done so without being well thought out. This is such an important feature of forum software that it really has me looking at alternatives to IP.Board.


Yeah, this really dumbfounds me. I can't even imagine how the heck people would get confused about the old "View New Posts". I'd love to see some of those tickets. The old format is not too dissimilar from the Topics view. The new format is vastly different.

I understand from one perspective what Invision was trying to do with "View New Content" in that they wanted to blend search results from each of the different application modules. That's a noble goal, but when the search index feature was removed, the reason for having these dumbed-down search results was negated. Now that people are converting their 2.3.x boards to 3.0.0, I've seen many Invision customers complaining about "View New Content" for various reasons. I really hope Invision finally listens to their customer base and makes the necessary changes to fix this important feature. And by "fix" I mean at minimum at least revert it to the previous functionality.


Wholeheartedly agreed.

..Al

Long before IP3 was introduced I surveyed my members on surfing habits. 56% used view new posts as there sole method for using the board. All the hard work of the development team is overshadowed by this issue. Very misguided change. Both unfortunate and unnecessary.

I've been talking about this since the first day of IP3 previews in 2008. My hunch is now supported by feedback from my membership.

View New Posts and Today's Active Posts.

View New Content is a step down from View New Posts. Not sure what prompted it but it makes no sense. People want to follow their own threads through that feature. Was it that difficult to keep their own read posts in it? I'm trying to understand the logic for making that change.

Both of the above also need reference to the original posters in threads.

Without reverting back to those features it doesn't matter how much better the rest of the board is. They immediately detract from what should be a huge leap forward.

The new IPB is so much smoother and more efficient than the previously released ones. It is much faster and better on the eyes for me. I think that you did a great job on this and I congratulate you on your release.

Came right up for me as well. Impressive given there are over 1400 people using the board (although amusingly, only 45 of those are logged in!!)

..Al

lol, I'm no math whiz, but I dont think $149 is a 9100% price increase over $49. But any way, its pretty crazy to think that the price of the forum software wouldn't increase over the years, profit/revenue isn't a bad thing, and the price of everything else has increased in those years (Though, i doubt by 9100% :D)

Also, a lot of the complaints/concerns in the thread seem like they aren't really viable to blame on invision? Modifications are provided via 3rd parties, and those are the people you want to talk about with having them upgraded/maintained.

Um, no, that's not profit, that's revenue. That money then has to go toward paying the developers to write new code, the support staff for answering tickets and processing payments, the management who run the company, the ISP for internet access (which definitely isn't cheap for businesses who do their own hosting), and all of the building rent, utilities, upkeep, and maintenance at their headquarters. And even then I'm sure I'm missing something. (Also, on what planet is $140 9100% greater than $49?)

Bottom line, IPS isn't raking in mountains of pure profit from every sale. It bothers me when people forget that there's overhead to software development (says the guy with a grandfathered lifetime license of IP.Board for $129 :whistle: )...

It actually focuses on the products themselves rather than people gawking at laptops :P

We would rather forget the current site.

Some hobo we found outside the office.

Or it might have been a few security professionals.... yes, that would seem much more logical ;)

We did have third-party auditing. Please don't spread misinformation if you haven't any idea as to facts.

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Way to one-up me Mert :angry: :P

I want whatever little active members I have to read my threads. =(

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No one said anything about removing the word wrapping, but in it's current form it leaves the editor text with poor readability.

This (2.3 example):



is a lot easier to read through than this (3.0 example):



the tabbing and alignment is whacked.

And four days would be .57 weeks. :D

Gasp!

You've repeated the same thing now like 6 times. If the guy wants to disable it, then go for it. It seems like a great idea for politics which can get out of hand quickly. Its personally not my 2 cents to do, but you don't have to continue to bash the guy. Also, to correct your laws a bit. Most of the laws only come in place where your server is PHYSICALLY located. In order words my offshore server in Finland can do things that my server in America can not.




Thats not entirely true, back on phpBB3 a guy took my 110k user forum down using the 3.0.2 exploit. He stole all the passwords, decrypted them and mass spammed the emails, and still to this day posts the old mySQL dB on the internet. I filled out a FBI IC Form, and never heard back. Talk to my host to take legal action, never happened.

If you can get America to fight with you on any online issue, thats a miracle.