Tracy Perry

Just now, CheersnGears said:

The solution is to find another provider.  There is a lot of competition in this space.

This is (if on shared hosting) frequently the ONLY solution.  If you are on a VPS or dedicated sever (even if using hypervisors) you can control this yourself.  It is one of the weaknesses of being with certain low-budget hosting providers.

Depending on what hosting you are using, many times in a PHP upgrade certain required (or needed) PHP PECL's are not installed.

You need to check to make sure that the PECL's on your current PHP install are present on your new PHP install.

In addition, you need to make sure that any of your add-ons are compliant with the PHP version you are using.  It is not unheard of (either with IPS or other scripts) that a PHP upgrade can cause issues with the PHP version.

It really should not be that difficult.  The hardest issue will be getting your hosting set up.  Once that is done, you need to check the credentials used for the DB by the script.  You will then need to create a new DB utilizing those credentials on your new hosting site.  Import your old exported database (which I hope you have in addition to the actual physical file structure of your site) to the newly created DB.

Once you do that, upload the files in your archive into the home directory for your hosting for that domain.  It should be pretty much go from there.  One exception is if you used CRON for your regular jobs instead of visits.. you will need to recreate that cron job using crontab for the root user.

I don't use IPS currently (expired license holder), but am willing to help as much as I can to get you back up and running (no cost as I try to help others when my abilities allow).

One thing to be aware of... depending on how old your backups are, they may not run on the more current 8.x lines of PHP, so you may want to  start out with PHP 7.3/4 line until you can upgrade.

Oh, forgot to mention.. been playing with Linux since 1994... so it's not really a "new" thing for me.  First exposure was with Slackware 1.2... which was only released about 3 decades ago.  😎

2 hours ago, Grafidea said:

Yes, cloudlinux is paid and is one of the main founders/sponsors of Almalinux. When I was setting up my server, I tested both ubuntu 20.04 and AlmaLinux 8 and ubuntu started faster, additionally it caused less problems when installing the PLESK panel than AlmaLinux.

I've found (for startup) the opposite... of course, I'm not dependent on a web based panel to control my VPS instance.  😉

I tend to target maximal performance... and have found (for me) that Ubuntu/Debian lags behind, especially since I'm not dependent upon a panel for controlling my server instance.  Personally, to me, control panels are actually a bane, since when something messes up, most that use them can't "fight their way out of a bag" when trying to figure out how to resolve the issue.  If it's not "point & click" they don't have ANY idea as how the system works.

Before I started using CentMin Mod, I rolled my own nginx solution... and it was ALWAYS faster than any web based control panel solution (specifically on CentOS when compared to Debian).... the ONLY exception (and it did NOT involve a web based control panel) was with LightSpeed...but the small increment in performance didn't outweigh the costs involved when for me when compared to ngnix.
I don't depend on a panel to provide/interface with domain related email. since most times delivery from a VPS/dedicated/shared hosting sucks to many mail providers (looking straight at Microsoft).  I prefer to utilize Amazon SES and it's increased deliverability, so I never found the need for point/click that most panels provide.
I've never had any "major" issues with upgrades updates... but of the two (RHEL/Debian) versions, it was ALWAYS the Debian line that I had more issues with over the last decade.

Thanks...so this was definitely an upgrade/conversion issue that involved legacy data.

Was there some modifications made to the upgrade script that will allow others to possibly bypass this issue, or was it a one-off instance?

I would have assumed that an upgrade would be able to cleanly handle legacy data, especially if it involved the base script.

2 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said:

Thank you for your feedback. We would indeed tend to do this, however there are occasions where there is a fix involved, which would simply be added to the software for a future release, and requires development to intervene to resolve an issue.

So, it was a coding issue that took developer intervention (with indicators it was a bug)?  Even that would be good to know other than "it was fixed".  😉

Not trying to razz anyone...but more detail is always handy if a company is providing support via the forums and no longer via tickets as the primary avenue.

14 hours ago, Stuart Silvester said:

Thanks!. Issue solved, you're back online.

Can I make a simple mention... for others that have this issue (or similar), it is REALLY beneficial for COMMUNITY support to detail in some form what was done to resolve the issue other than saying "it's fixed".  It may eliminate others from contacting for support if it is something that they can do on their end.

12 minutes ago, Grafidea said:

Oddly enough, most hosting companies are moving their services to Ubuntu. Most hosting panels also have first-class support for ubuntu/debian and only in the second round AlmaLinux. Which proves that there are fewer AlmaLinux users.

And oddly... most VPS's and dedicated servers aren't controlled by what hosting companies want to force on you.

That's the benefit of being on a dedicated server or VPS.

As for AlmaLinux... been using it for for a while now... and since it's basically a "knock-off" of CentOS/RedHat it's not that "new" to the game.  It's 1:1 binary compatible to RHEL (which is a long time standard in Linux serving).

One of the other main differences is the licensing.  AlmaLinux is under GPLv2 and Ubuntu is under BSD-3 Clause (which is important to some).

In my experience, the boot-time on the server instance is faster with AlmaLinux than Ubuntu.  There are a few more steps to installing AlmaLinux than Ubuntu, but the main reason of that is that AlmaLinux does not try to shove the kitchen sink at you during setup when compared to Ubuntu 22.04LTS.  I have found I much prefer to pick what packages I want installed instead of relying on someone else to tell me what I need.

BTW, ever hear of CloudIinux?  Some folks prefer Rocky Linux, but I've played with some of Cloud Linux's stuff in the past when I was running dedicated server hardware and was impressed.

32 minutes ago, Grafidea said:

I recommend switching to Almalinux 9 or Ubuntu 22.04 LTS

Considering that AlmaLinux 8 doesn't reach EOL until 2029, why?

And there's a difference in Ubuntu and AlmaLinux (Redhat vs Debian).  I personally no longer enjoy fighting with Debian (and it's shorter life-cycles) nor with Ubuntu and some of it's issues.

More of the software packages are available under AlmaLinux 8 than 9.  And yes, you gain 3 years before EOL in AlmaLinux 9, but honestly, how many will still be on the SAME hardware in 6 years to begin with?

Personally, for me (after over a decade of running VPS's and dedicated servers on the wild internet) I prefer known stability.

Think that's when CentOS 7 official support ends also.  

I personally use AlmaLinux 8 and have had no issues with it (I'm running XF and not IPS any longer) along with the BETA version of CentMinMod script.  I would not expect IPS to work any differently, as it didn't when I had 4.3 running on CentOS 7 (also using CentMinMod).

If I remember correctly, there is a planned "upgrade" path being worked on (if not already finished) to cleanly move a site from CentOS 7 to AlmaLinux 8.  Then the cPanel upgrade should be no issues.

Nulled versions happen with just about every paid script.  It is not limited to specifically IPS's script offering.  It's simply a reality that they have to deal with.

All YOU can do is report it through the proper channels and then forget about it.

The REAL issue is even after contacting a sites hosting provider, they may simply NOT bring the site down due to the piracy issue.  And even "going to court" can be a losing proposition, especially if the court has no jurisdiction where the site is hosted at.

If you like the script, then simply worry about YOUR continuing to support it, and not let the fact that threr are thieves out there that want something for nothing and are getting it (and it's not limited to scripts).  YOUR integrity is what is important.
Some of the most hypocritical statements I've heard are from admins that said "well, I pirated it to see what it was like, then I paid for it".  I look at that like "Well, I went into the steak house and ordered their best steak to see if I liked it, left without paying and then started buying it to cook at home".

On 2/27/2023 at 4:42 PM, Gary said:

and 8.0 itself is only having security support for the next 8 months at the time of writing this post.

Not exactly "true".  Some distributions of Linux (which if you are on shared hosting or using the official PHP.NET repository) may be.... but many are STILL supporting PHP 8.0.xx beyond what PHP.NET supports it.
It is incumbent upon the admin of the server to ascertain how long their OS is providing support for.

On 2/27/2023 at 1:25 PM, AlexJ said:

CentMin equivalent for Debian? Installing this stuff is not an issue.. but setting up correct way in nginx is little bit challenge, as I am not familiar with nginx or php fpm. 

You wont' see a Debian version of CentMin Mod.  The developer is pretty much set in the Redhat style environment... and honestly, I've had WAY less issues with CentOS/AlmaLinux than I EVER did Debian/Ubuntu.

Is there a reason you are stuck on Debian/Ubuntu.  About all I use Ubuntu/Debian for any longer is on my Raspberry Pi 4's or similar for my astrophotography stuff.

Late to this topic (by about 2 years) but if wanting to set up nginx with IPS, I'd STRONGLY recommend looking at CentMin Mod and CentMin  7 (not 8).  There is also a new BETA version being worked on for AlmaLinux since CentOS is reaching EOL in the near future.

The only major thing you have to change is the "try_files) for IPS... and it is an easy edit.

On 11/28/2022 at 3:23 PM, Adlago said:

Maybe your "IT bees" etc. are more useful for this topic than you. I'm sorry.

And mayhap there reaches a point of diminishing returns?

To spend 20 hour to gain .0010ms of responsiveness is honestly ridiculous.  You are NOT on a drag strip against another vehicle.... .there IS a simple point of diminishing returns... and apparently you have MORE than enough extra time to devote to them... Most don't , and honestly do not need to.

6 hours ago, Adriano Faria said:

It comes from the Transactions settings and shouldn't appear if you're not using it. 

Go to settings and fill with 0 (zero) that field and disable transactions. Let me know if it works. I'll add a bug report if that's the case. 

Most likely a bug then... if I turn transactions off it appears.  If I enable transactions and make it 0 and save the options it disappears but as soon as I disable transactions again it re-appears.

Thanks!

@Adriano Faria, quick question.  I have all my ads set up as free and I do NOT handle any of the transactions through the commerce package - leaving it for the users to settle payment process between themselves.. 

Now, the issue I have is that when an ad is made/edited, it shows this

I've been trying to find where that 2% commission setting is at as I don't remember setting one and don't - as far as I remember - have commerce set up for that either.

Any suggestions/ideas where that is coming from?

31 minutes ago, Adriano Faria said:

The problem I see is that the commerce seems to have been made to meet the specific needs of IPS.  There's a lot that needs to be improved to really look like a virtual store / sales site

Yep, and I'm sure you've probably seen some of my posts "harping" on this very fact.  It basically appears to be a package that they use(d) internally that they bolted a few features onto and then turned into an app to resale.  It's not a "true" commerce package by any means.

9 minutes ago, ltmke11 said:

quick question-  When someone buys an item the software is sending me(site owner) their money and not the seller.  Is there a way to change this? Or Did I not select the right button somewhere?  Thanks!

 

That's the one weakness of the Commerce package dependency.  All money goes into YOUR account and then you have to distribute it out from there to the appropriate parties.  Until the base commerce package is changed to allow it to route to other accounts you will have to distribute the proceeds.

I've set mine up so that I dont' handle any of the funds.

This is kind of a misnomer as it does not pay directly to the advertiser, but to the commerce package and then distributed out from there - not really much different than the downloads manager does from my understanding.

@Adriano Faria, on the most recent upgrade to IPS 4.1.18.2 I got a warning after running the support tool.

and when clicking on the Fix this link, it reveals this

Is this an issue with the add-on and the new version - and are those indexes required and go ahead and let it fix it automatically?

Yes and no.. if the actual topic link took  you to the first unread, that icon would be not necessary.  Using an icon in the topic is (to me) a kludge to get around the fact that the topic link taking you to the first unread does not exist (instead of clicking on the icon, which most users are NOT used to doing since competing software performs differently).

Agreed, if the field is important enough to be collected, it should be important enough to be able to be searched upon.  It is very limiting to not allow that and defeats the purpose of custom fields.

1 hour ago, Flitterkill said:

Best solution is probably the plugin linked above.

Best solution is to use a somewhat standard format in that the topic links to the first unread post.  Pretty sure most of the scripts perform the same, not requiring you to click on a little round circle to read the newest post.

XenForo - click on topic takes you to first unread post
Burning Board - click on topic takes you to the first unread post
myBB - click on the topic takes you to the first unread post

Seeing a trend here yet?  IPS is apparently the only one that the users have to learn a whole new process for.  Really helps towards that user friendliness, requiring them to learn a whole new process JUST to use your site compared to other (possibly competitor) sites that they use.  Guess which they will tend to keep going back to?  Odds are it's not going to be the strange duck that requires them to have to relearn/think about what is "normal" for them on other sites.

And to top it off, clicking on that little round button is not "easy" on mobile when compared to clicking on that nice long topic text.

Looks like it will require a code change to the core IPS script.  XenForo suffered the same issues until they changed the code in their 1.3 version to fix this issue.