Ignore / Block

[BakuEdi]

Just now, Tripp★ said:

I did say an option would be nice, I was just merely stating a fact.

Eh? I didn't. You either misread that entirely or you're asking the wrong person. I've not got the foggiest what you're talking about.

Sorry, then ))

I thought you found a solution by editing some templates )))

[Tripp★]

To make the whole "Click here to see the message"? No, I've not done it but I am aware it can be done like that.

The whole system is basically all bark with no bite. A simple template change isn't going to fix that, unfortunately. 

[BradSmith]

Invision, is there a way to have a community fund effort to get this feature added to cover your costs?

 

@Matt @Jordan Miller

[Randy Calvert]

8 hours ago, BradSmith said:

Invision, is there a way to have a community fund effort to get this feature added to cover your costs?

 

@Matt @Jordan Miller

If you're willing to pay for this sort of feature, it might be worth reaching out to a 3rd party resource developer to see about having them create this sort of functionality for you.  

https://invisioncommunity.com/third-party/providers/

From what has been said by folks on the development team on a different issue is not about trying to raise money for a specific feature...  but instead about juggling a number of other competing interests.  It's more of an issue of time and then making sure the feature fits into the long term plan/strategy for the software.  

[BradSmith]

7 hours ago, Randy Calvert said:

If you're willing to pay for this sort of feature, it might be worth reaching out to a 3rd party resource developer to see about having them create this sort of functionality for you.  

https://invisioncommunity.com/third-party/providers/

From what has been said by folks on the development team on a different issue is not about trying to raise money for a specific feature...  but instead about juggling a number of other competing interests.  It's more of an issue of time and then making sure the feature fits into the long term plan/strategy for the software.  

I appreciate the reply,I was hoping to have something in their core module so I don't have to worry about it again.

Is there a way to put in a request on the third party that I dont see? Kind of like Fiverr were soliciting requests?

 

[teraßyte]

1 hour ago, BradSmith said:

I appreciate the reply,I was hoping to have something in their core module so I don't have to worry about it again.

Is there a way to put in a request on the third party that I dont see? Kind of like Fiverr were soliciting requests?

Once you click on a provider's name (be sure it says "Available for hire") and it opens a new page with their profile there is a Contact me button under their photo. Some buttons will simply open a new PM, others will redirect to an external site. It depends on how the user setup their contact information. 👍

[Tripp★]

On 10/20/2022 at 6:39 AM, Randy Calvert said:

If you're willing to pay for this sort of feature, it might be worth reaching out to a 3rd party resource developer to see about having them create this sort of functionality for you.  

https://invisioncommunity.com/third-party/providers/

From what has been said by folks on the development team on a different issue is not about trying to raise money for a specific feature...  but instead about juggling a number of other competing interests.  It's more of an issue of time and then making sure the feature fits into the long term plan/strategy for the software.  

I appreciate your effort to assist, but incorporating another application or plugin that needs maintenance between updates can become a tedious task, and become yet another application/plugin that should be a core feature. What surprises me is that a vital feature such as moderation, which was heralded to be enhanced, still lacks the necessary functionality when it comes to moderation at it's lowest level - user to user blocking. It's perplexing that the activity feeds still display the statuses of users who have been blocked, indicating that this feature hasn't been updated or taken into account during the ongoing updates. Or the fact that blocked users can still send you private messages if you have an already existing message open with them, which I have no explanation for what-so-ever.

Perhaps I'm overlooking something, but there has been no response from the staff regarding this matter. The fact that there hasn't even been a simple acknowledgment that no changes will be made. Effectively, I kind of feel like we're being ignored... Which is ironic. 

The issue is being overlooked despite being one of the core features of the platform. It's a little frustrating to witness the lack of attention to this issue, especially when IPS has been emphasising the need for better moderation tools in their updates around the end of 2022. 

[Randy Calvert]

It’s not a “you” thing or intentionally ignoring you. Staff GENERALLY don’t comment on most feature suggestions. (Scroll though this forum and read some if you don’t want to take my word.)

They do look here, read everything and get inspiration and take down trends with the types of requests. 

They might chime in from time to time here, but don’t expect to see them responding here like in the main support forum where they’ll address every single thread. 

[Tripp★]

1 minute ago, Randy Calvert said:

It’s not a “you” thing or intentionally ignoring you. Staff GENERALLY don’t comment on most feature suggestions. (Scroll though this forum and read some if you don’t want to take my word.)

They do look here, read everything and get inspiration and take down trends with the types of requests. 

They might chime in from time to time here, but don’t expect to see them responding here like in the main support forum where they’ll address every single thread. 

I'm sorry if I gave the impression that I was accusing the staff of ignoring me. I didn't mean to imply that. What I said was meant as a light-hearted remark or a joke. It wasn't my intention to suggest that anyone was intentionally disregarding our concerns.

To provide some context, we have a serious problem with harassers and stalkers on our site. Unfortunately, these issues can be difficult to deal with under our current Terms of Service, and many users rely on the blocking feature as a means of protecting themselves. It's concerning that some users have left our site because they feel unsafe due to the limitations of our blocking system. We need a robust and effective blocking feature to empower our users to feel safe online.

Considering that this feature is a core part of IPS, it's astonishingly inadequate in its current state. It fails so miserably at its intended purpose that it's difficult to even refer to it as an "ignore" feature. Ignored posts still show up in the activity feed, or that people can still send private messages if they have one open renders the feature to near pointless-useless.

Frankly, no amount of semantic acrobatics can convince me otherwise. The current state of this feature is unacceptable and it's a disgrace that a community-focused software lacks such a critical feature. It's simply not fit for purpose, and it's frustrating to see how little attention has been paid to it.

[Dreadknux]

Throwing my hat in here to support this feature request - there absolutely needs to be a more robust Ignore and Block functionality in V5. It's a critical tool to allow community members to keep themselves safe from other users they do not get along with.

There needs to be:

- A 'block' function on the member level, which works on a user's entire content and presence, in much the way the OP described;

- An 'Ignore Content' function that works on the Topics/Pages/Events/etc level, that works to prevent any posts/updates to content from appearing on user Activity Streams or Content Blocks of any kind (both custom made ones and global - there needs to be no additional lift for the end user for this to be effective - i.e. we can not expect a user to click 'Ignore Topic' and then also create a new Activity Stream with some 'avoid ignored content' filter).

If IPS is serious as they say they are about putting more focus in community-building in V5, then this is a must-have feature.

[AlexWright]

Having now also played around on the v5 site, I can say that nothing with this system has improved or changed. It is still not possible to, for instance, block someone's gallery, blog, or pages content. I'm kind of disappointed in this, but not surprised anymore. I'll have to agree with @Tripp★ above and say that the current version(s) of the Ignore function aren't suitable for purpose in a community based platform.

[Marc]

On 8/21/2024 at 6:52 PM, AlexWright said:

Having now also played around on the v5 site, I can say that nothing with this system has improved or changed. It is still not possible to, for instance, block someone's gallery, blog, or pages content. I'm kind of disappointed in this, but not surprised anymore. I'll have to agree with @Tripp★ above and say that the current version(s) of the Ignore function aren't suitable for purpose in a community based platform.

Very sorry to hear you arent happen with the currently implementation here. Not all items suggested will be implemented, and while we would like to change every item wished for on version 5, unfortunately this is not really viable to do. So even some items that are planned to be changed, will not nessesarily appear in version 5.0.0. 

It is worth noting, what you are asking for is actually a new feature, not a change to an existing feature. 'Block' and 'Ignore' arent one and the same. We have an 'ignore' feature, which hides content you may not wish to see from another user. That is very much a functional item, and is well used by our customer. The block feature you are looking for us to implement, simply isnt a feature at present, and I feel the 2 are being confused. They are not the same thing at all.

• Ignore - I walk into a room, and ignore what a person is saying
• Block - I walk into a room, and I dont know a person exists, and they dont know I exist. 

[AlexWright]

On 8/28/2024 at 6:06 AM, Marc said:

It is worth noting, what you are asking for is actually a new feature, not a change to an existing feature. 'Block' and 'Ignore' arent one and the same. We have an 'ignore' feature, which hides content you may not wish to see from another user. That is very much a functional item, and is well used by our customer. The block feature you are looking for us to implement, simply isnt a feature at present, and I feel the 2 are being confused. They are not the same thing at all.

Ok, but it should still be possible then to ignore all of a user's content throughout the default apps, not just the forums, messages, and mentions. The fact that there isn't a parity of the ignore feature across all of the Invision in-house applications simply doesn't make sense. It should work for Pages databases, Gallery, Clubs started by that user, and Blogs, at the very least in addition to the other core applications.

[Marc]

4 hours ago, AlexWright said:

Ok, but it should still be possible then to ignore all of a user's content throughout the default apps, not just the forums, messages, and mentions. The fact that there isn't a parity of the ignore feature across all of the Invision in-house applications simply doesn't make sense. It should work for Pages databases, Gallery, Clubs started by that user, and Blogs, at the very least in addition to the other core applications.

OK, we are talking about 2 different things here. If there is "content" which is still visible after ignoring someone, then that would actually be a bug. Please let me know if that is the case with specific examples

[AlexWright]

On 8/30/2024 at 3:06 AM, Marc said:

OK, we are talking about 2 different things here. If there is "content" which is still visible after ignoring someone, then that would actually be a bug. Please let me know if that is the case with specific examples

Sure. Here's from the invision 5 site, as I don't currently have a community set up. Just test ignored a user chosen at random (Sorry Astro!)

 

Their content is still absolutely visible in Gallery:

 

Topics they started also behave weirdly, in that they can be seen if someone else has replied in them:

 

The posts behave as expected within the Topics, however. I'll get some help for a community I work with for showing this on the v4 platform when I can, but it's essentially the same. Don't believe the v5 site has test page databases available for use atm.

[Marc]

Please post any bugs for version 5 on the preview community in the bug tracker. What you are seeing there is a bug, not something you want as a new feature. Im not entirely sure what you mean on the second part of this, to be honest, as many items tehre you are posting arent the person you ignored. It will ignore 'only' their post, not anything else