TestingSomething Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Only thing I hope for is as few function name changes as possible, thus where components have a chance of mostly working still. As far as features, it would be kind of nice if it had some things I currently use modifications for, but believe it or not I don't even use many modifications anymore that aren't components. Just ones I particularly like enough to be worth file editing.
kirov Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 it's very nice that IPS is going to keep us updated with the work on IPB 3.0 and the way you listened to our suggestions for IP Blog 1.4
Vince G. Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 As far as features, it would be kind of nice if it had some things I currently use modifications for, but believe it or not I don't even use many modifications anymore that aren't components. Just ones I particularly like enough to be worth file editing. I hope they won't add unwanted modifications, Because what you use is not being used by others, That's why i'd rather have the system as clean as possible with the most necessary features. (To be honest i dont think adding the reputation as a built in is a good choice since i know that i wont use it, But then again it's just me). But still adding modification to be built in ... I would say no. Lets keep it as it is and just extend the API's and help the contributers make more modifications.
zigs Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I'm surprised the reputation system has been added, I thought the general consensus here was that it wasn't wanted :unsure:
Vince G. Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I'm surprised the reputation system has been added, I thought the general consensus here was that it wasn't wanted My thoughts exactly.
TestingSomething Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I hope they won't add unwanted modifications, Because what you use is not being used by others, That's why i'd rather have the system as clean as possible with the most necessary features. (To be honest i dont think adding the reputation as a built in is a good choice since i know that i wont use it, But then again it's just me). But still adding modification to be built in ... I would say no. Lets keep it as it is and just extend the API's and help the contributers make more modifications. How do you even know which features I am using? The only things that would be obvious when looking at sites casually would be components and I said I am not tlaking about components. One feature I use which is not used much (and is broken everywhere it is released currently, if I'm not mistaken, but I managed to look at an old versiona nd new one and figure it out) is the coolest feature I've seen, in my opinion. I don't think I use more than maybe 5 mods which require file edits and they arent obvious just by glancing. :) Honestly I try to think of new things for me to make myself and it seems like most things are already modifications. So if you don't want any current modifications placed into the default coding what do you even want added? there is really no feature they can add which is not a current modification.
Vince G. Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I didn't say i do know what you have installed on board, I was just giving an example. Adding features like the reputation are stuff I Think shouldn't be as a built in feature in the product. And my guess the only reason they are adding it cause there were lots of requests for it. And if there are a lot of requests i'd imagine they will fulfill them. To me features that should be implemented as a built in are stuff that Most of the members will use such as the Friendly URL, Site map is also a good feature to get more visitors. New forum look is also a great feature since i am sure you could do more things by displaying your board in different styles and forms. To me having extended API's better code handling and what ever is written above is more then just features since with the above listed programmers can build there own stuff easily that will integrate with the product and will eventually benefit you anyways since your the one who would use those new modifications built by those programmers.
TestingSomething Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Just a note: as far as skin goes, I don't like profile view at all. One skin I use (made by someone else) does a much better job handling it, in my personal opinion. I frankly love their profile view a lot more. I would change a few things in theirs, but the bottom line of it is that instead of the personal portal being squeezed into the middle, they rearranged things where it is a 2 column view. A thin column of stats on the left and then the majority of the table is the personal portal on the right. Looks a thousand times better that way. One issue with their skin as well as the IPB skins though is that stats are not set up in a nice, noticable way. They all blend together in the current look. There was a feature I was going to suggest, but now I can't remember...
TestingSomething Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Oh I remember now. I had mentioned in the past that it would be nice if the UCP would have tabs making it very obvious where each setting is. Well i also suggest that for ACP. For instance I want to change my setting where my admin group does not need approval for Calendar. I believe that feature was added, but now I must go find it and its a real chore finding where settings are in the ACP. (note: I actually just found that setting in 2 minutes, so bad example haha)
Management Matt Posted May 1, 2008 Management Posted May 1, 2008 Only thing I hope for is as few function name changes as possible, thus where components have a chance of mostly working still. IPB 3.0 has a brand new PHP 5.0 only framework which means most function names and classes have been either rewritten entirely or completely refactored. $ipsclass has been completely removed and a new Registry -> Controller -> Command -> View framework has been put into place. I'll be posted an outline to the changes in a forthcoming blog entry. We are making no effort to make any current templates, skins or modifications work with IPB 3.0. We cannot move forwards with development if we're tied to IPB 2.x and in some cases IPB 1.x conventions.
Myr Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I'm really happy to see development moving forward. I've been working hard to avoid having to use hacks/mods as much as possible because it becomes too tedious trying to keep up with things. I'm hoping that the new skin system is easy to use without the hundreds of little things to update just to change some colors. I also hope that one of the default skins will be fully compliant with Accessability guidelines, as I've had a few complaints about that in the recent past. (mostly, no fixed font sizes, as I understand it) Myr
WebbyB Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I'm genuinely looking forward to the developments, (aren't we all) - I can certainly embrace all the current features mentioned. Judging by the clean look of the Blog..i'm hoping the Forum follows a similar suite. Nice and white..and intuitive :) With the introduction of SEFURL i'm also hoping for Social Boomarking (much like the blogs do).... But we'll see what unravels. :) :)
Management Charles Posted May 1, 2008 Management Posted May 1, 2008 just a echo of what i wrote in the blog: "i really really hope you think of us developers in this version, we need good tools to export to xml which can be reimported easily. We need a GOOD hooks system that should be able to handle all our needs on a whim. We need good API's allowing us to integrate with anything we wish, you've promised most of these but we also really need a proper installer, something along the lines of the UMI mod but with a bit more control and functionality. Also no mention was made about the modules and components system, i do hope these aren't being left out in the cold." One of our key points is making it easier for third party developers to add on to our code. We are getting advice and assistance from some people in the modification community here. I think you'll like what we are working on :)I hope they won't add unwanted modifications, Because what you use is not being used by others, That's why i'd rather have the system as clean as possible with the most necessary features. (To be honest i dont think adding the reputation as a built in is a good choice since i know that i wont use it, But then again it's just me). But still adding modification to be built in ... I would say no. Lets keep it as it is and just extend the API's and help the contributers make more modifications. We are being very careful about just slapping in modifications and new features. Often someone will say "wow let's add _______" and then, after a pause, we realize that's better left as an addon or mod because of the very reason you point out. We have to create a feature set with mass appeal and be careful not to add features that, while they may be nice to have, the time to develop them would be better spent on something else.
Xtibia Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Reputation System Rlz SEO Rlz IPB 3 will rlz Nothing More
Vince G. Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 [b]We are being very careful about just slapping in modifications and new features[/b]. Often someone will say "wow let's add _______" and then, after a pause, we realize that's better left as an addon or mod because of the very reason you point out. We have to create a feature set with mass appeal and be careful not to add features that, while they may be nice to have, the time to develop them would be better spent on something else. Thank you. :)
Brett B Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 I hope that IPB 3 includes a better modification system.
MindTooth Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 My wishes are; Update from within IP.Board. (Easier updates) Support for PostgreSQL. (Since you dropped Oracle, this is doable) SEO customization like in WordPress. (Permalinks) "My Posts/Replies". (Similar feature you have within phpBB, SMF, etc. You can also remove My Friends, and replace it with My Posts/Replies.) Birger :)
marklcfc Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Interesting but a few requests: A small feature which is the thread prefix which vbulletin recently added. Try and make it as fast loading and easy on the load as 2.3 is, I think you did a great job with this over the past few releases. Please don't make any changes to ibf_posts table that require changes made to it in the upgrade, for those that have over a million posts it's going to prove difficult upgrading. Not that it will matter to me whilst I'm using Php 4 :(
Jason L Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Interesting but a few requests: A small feature which is the thread prefix which vbulletin recently added. Try and make it as fast loading and easy on the load as 2.3 is, I think you did a great job with this over the past few releases. Please don't make any changes to ibf_posts table that require changes made to it in the upgrade, for those that have over a million posts it's going to prove difficult upgrading. Not that it will matter to me whilst I'm using Php 4 :( We are planning on not making any changes to the posts table, unless absolutely positively necessary, for the very reason that you state.
anfimovir Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 Tell please, whether changes in the system blocking users? And added that whether any of the topic: http://forums.invisionpower.com/index.php?showtopic=271963 ------------------------------------------------ When you delete messages, the user will decrease counter messages?
AeroFx Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 i do have a question, is the admin panel getting another make over? Was woundering if it was going to be sometinhg similer to the nexus admin paenl or remaining the same
WoLeRiNe` Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 IPS, Please keep your ADMIN Panel style. IPB has best ADMIN CP... Easy to use and to find the section/options...
Rikki Posted May 1, 2008 Posted May 1, 2008 i do have a question, is the admin panel getting another make over? Was woundering if it was going to be sometinhg similer to the nexus admin paenl or remaining the same It's getting a spruce-up and usability tweaks, but we aren't planning at this stage to overhaul it :)
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