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when we see what IPS has today as site integration by API, there is not much unfortunately

what is essential missing and that you would like to see?

I would like to see ZOOM, calendly ...

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Personally I see its future and its strength in its admin panel, its ease of use, the addition of plugins with a minimum of bugs or rapid correction in the event of a problem interaction between them.

And especially in the core who are the members and exchange between them or in specific groups that it is something dedicated not external like for example word press with bbpress buddy press and plugins that never end.

I hope that this post is not made to talk about the shortcomings it could have but rather how can IPS respond in the near future to our needs corresponding to the needs of today's Internet users?

Thanks

can you please increase the use of site automation and if possible make it easier for the developer for example to integrate this into their application.

for example that any action, reading a subject, clicking on a button... on the site can be chosen in "when"

and dane "then", be able to send a private message, an email, change groups...

thanks

in fact, I'm trying to go with the suggestions that any product that already exists and at a reasonable price can be integrated by API, so it's better to integrate it rather than ask you to develop it.

This is to better focus on the real needs such as the core of the site, management of members, groups, exchanges between members and in groups etc.

I gave as an example, calendly but it could have been one of their competitors, or why not see to improve the calendar of IPS so that it can contain similar options.

Because it is not too obvious when using external applications if it asks members to register but which should not be the case here.

and if that was the case maybe zapier could help, I don't know.

You know, before I was for a super design site, etc... but I understood that simplicity is more than enough today

I also understood that it is above all the quality of the content that takes precedence even if it is delivered by email, not necessarily in a great site...

for example there I will not ask you for an LMS to classify content because there is a need for more important things before.

42 minutes ago, Matt said:

What sort of integration with Calendy would you like? From your description, simply posting the link would make it visible but it's probable that I'm missing what your intentions are.

I do agree that it's definitely time to deepen relationships with the community, but that really comes from the people managing the platform, not the platform itself.

Providing even quality content isn't enough if it isn't read, but it stays on top of that.

Today we also arrived especially at having to provide micro information, easy to read and to consume

What do you propose then for the content to be read?

What I propose to you is that each member can be properly followed by a staff member with different objectives according to each community and with group workshops on different themes to keep interactivity and a social spirit.

Put yourself in my place as a non-developer, you tell me, here is a quality forum for becoming developers, full of quality articles and mutual aid.

I register but I will quickly desert.

Why not offer to be directed to registration by a member of staff.

He will be more confident knowing that he is followed by a person with certain knowledge and who directs him in the path to take, weekly objectives?

the calendar for example to choose a time or you choose a schedule for personalized help on zoom or by telephone.

the first meeting at registration could be used to know the new member his objectives, what are his needs in resources...

to be able to fill in his profile so that each member of the staff can know more about him and his needs.

which group would be the most suitable for him to integrate. Groups with sharing workshops on a theme live on zoom...

I think it's become more and more difficult to absorb content. in e-learning, we are now talking about micro-learning, social learning, group, gamification, integration of live private lesson hours (greatly reducing the dropout rate)

I would say that the dropout rate in e learning without live lessons is surely over 90%.

We can no longer be communities with members alone and left to their own devices.

When a member registers in a community, he is behind his screen, alone and isolated, left to himself.

Today Internet users have become more demanding, we can no longer afford many things like 20 years ago.

For example, we will use zendesk to respond quickly to a guest because he wants an answer right away and does not want to wait.

Can you add the possibility of using a system like calendly so that each member can choose a day and a time to be reminded in order to have live audio or video support.

It could be a right for each new subscriber of 15 minutes for example, or a support time to buy.

It could be the sale of coaching hours etc.

That the support team can fill its hours available for support and that each member can choose with whom he wants, the day, the schedule...

 a choice free, or paying, or offered at registration (in number of minutes)...

After 20 years of post and message, it is time to deepen and review the relationship of the community.

Weird that sales sites have already implemented this, and that IPS is supposed to be a system to help members continue to be satisfied with just a written forum.

@rebraf 

this application seems to be able to answer in part.

it would be nice if we could use it with conditions.

If a member receives this badge, send this email, or post this message in the telegram chat..

Could IPS one day make it possible to automate the forum as much as possible.

For example, send to a specific member chosen (according to his group) or on a given date, or an action (reading a post, clicking on a button).

transmet to him A text + a PDF file + a video + a link, this by email or in a private conversation on telegram for example.

Telegram seems to be arriving soon on ZAPIER if that helps.

We have arrived at a period where it is necessary to avoid efforts towards members as much as possible, such as having to go to the forum, search, connect, download...

You have to try to present everything to him simply in front of him.

it would surely be possible to do something very interesting with Landing page of @Adriano Faria but still it is necessary I think that invision allow it to be possible to recover the page specific subscription and its checkout (with a code assigned to each?) to put them each in a personalized widget

this would be especially requested for the sale of a product of great value, a digital product or subscriptions.

I'm not talking about a shopping cart of different products randomly chosen and added which would be more complicated to implement.

Just a specific checkout and subscription page that does not change too much to be able to reuse in a widget for example

We could also use Thrive cart with Zapier but I feel like Zapier is not that powerful.

Unlike the subscription and checkout page, it would be more complicated to place the client in a specific group etc.

It is surely better to avoid going out to applications external to the site as much as possible.

I think I see Zapier's weakness here a bit more

would it be possible to improve the subscription and checkout page to make them more powerful and better convert the sale?

we could for example use widgets...

here is the example of a subscription page and another of checkout

https://thrivecart.com/special-offer/confirm-your-order/

https://checkout.thrivecart.com/thrivecart-standard-account/

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Can Zapier be sold with IPS like when you pay Downloads or blog for people who have no need or intention to migrate to the coud...

Would it be possible to sell lesson or coaching hours using the calendar?

The trainer would put his available times and days in the calendar and then any member could easily see and then buy.

thanks

can you add quick access buttons without having to go through "see their activity" such as:

see his files
see his posts
see his posts

can you classify the notifications by adding three tabs below for example

On the sales page we can see that some brands use IPS but concretely I think there must surely be better than that in terms of proof of Quality?

If IPS was engaged in obtaining a quality mark, proof that the site complies with certain standards of assistance to subscribers if this exists of course?

Let me explain :

For example in my country, in order to be able to sell training financed by the government, certain things must be proven by going through an independent body verifying the quality of the training center, in particular in the monitoring of students.

With IPS it would be possible to have:

An activity report report on members:

Connection duration, time, abandonment rate, etc ...

Certification achievement rate (level group promotion)

Performance indicators

How does IPS implement measures to encourage registrant engagement?

What are the management procedures for withdrawals and systematic reminders?

What are the tools and methods favoring the involvement of the beneficiary?

What are the procedures for positioning new members?

How is the accompaniment and follow-up of the members done?

Pedagogical follow-up booklet Support sequences, student teacher discussion

Concerning people with disabilities, is there something?

What are the means implemented for the methods of dealing with the difficulties encountered by the stakeholders, the complaints expressed by the latter, the contingencies that have arisen during the service?

Description and implementation of these modalities (acknowledgment of receipt of complaints and responses provided
to claimants), satisfaction surveys, analysis and
processing of complaints made by trainees, mediation system.

What are the remote connection aids?

modalities enabled for ease of use
and the appropriation by the beneficiaries of the resources
(face-to-face, remote, shared space),

evidence of dialogue between provider and tutors for adaptation
 tools and methods promoting the involvement of the beneficiary (co-constructed documents, shared spaces)

What self-assessment tools made available to beneficiaries
assessment of prior learning at entry

What method of identification and reflection on the causes of abandonment
or the reasons for dissatisfaction?

Thanks

Badges are important in the sense that they allow a quick visual to know a little about the credibility of the writer of the message if I may say so.

Maybe a simple registration date and a number of messages on a profile would be enough for some like you.

If not more widely, they also allow to integrate a gamification system in order to encourage participation especially towards new registrants and to make the profile system more informative and evolving.

This is the very first version and like very first version it is not the best but it will surely be improved over time just like IPS 1.0 was.

Whatever thing we're dealing with, whether it's writing an article or setting up a web page, I have learned over time that the best I think is not to render them. heavy things with lots of written or visual repetition by seeing the user as a person who does not understand anything at all and that must be repeated as many times as possible or make things that are immediately obvious with lots of colors or big visuals with the goal that he can not miss anything that we want to convey to him. Rather, it may make things difficult to assimilate and to scare away because it is too tiring.

Badges are a good thing but are not part of the main message for regular (and majority) users when opening a page.

Therefore, it should be less intrusive. Maximum a single icon can be on the main page of the message and with a maximum of discretion.

Because the goal is not to convey the main message of the page but to bring information to a new reader on a question which he asks himself "who am I in front?". He will have to search and he will find even if the information is discreet.

Regular users know that such is the moderator, credibility in his posts etc.

The gamification system is also becoming less useful for regular writers I think.

unlike instagram and other social networks, i don't think the old editors here are looking to have as many likes and badges as possible but rather to have their post read and accepted.

Is it possible to use a slider for a series of videos in a post?

Something like this:

https://invisioncommunity.com/files/file/8860-video-slider-widget/

except that it can only be used as a widget.

Let us not forget that communication between people initially started in a form of spoken communication even before the written word.

I think that this form of communication should not be neglected because it is the basis, but I have the impression that we prefer to concentrate here in the development of a communication in the form of smiley emoji faces.

I think IPS really needs to see how the big sales sites are done in order to keep up to date properly.

See how the dashboard is very intuitive.

See how easy it is to display what we want to see.

We should take here a post of ten pages and more as an example by thinking about how to display only what is interesting, by the use of filters or other.

is it possible to authorize members to cancel their subscription within 10 days of their registration.

knowing that it is easy to cancel your purchase and not having to send an email can make it easier to make the payment for different registration.

this will also facilitate administration by automating this process

When a message from page 2 is quoted and then displayed on page 150, do you really have to read pages 2 to 150 to understand it?

why not integrate the possibility of displaying the responses by quoting a message, in one and the same place, in the form of a comment like on youtoube? this is what is most coherent

also an option to display the most relevant messages, based either on the number of citation or point ...

this type of simplistic display of discussions dating back two decades or more is now becoming cumbersome and does not necessarily make you want to be read and participate.

I have a strong doubt that granting the possibility of a new display would no longer make the post understandable. there must surely be solutions such as "display the message in its chronological place or case where it is not understandable.

Just now, opentype said:

Sure. But that argument could be used for literally hundreds of functions and services that IPS could theoretically build to attract some new audience. Because it works for everything, it doesn’t mean much. 
As Paul already said, there a many many LMS providers already out there, who have worked for years in teams exclusively on this one product—so they are far ahead and will likely always remain ahead for years to come. It makes very little sense that IPS starts from scratch to compete with them through a completely new app, just to maybe get a few new customers in a competitive market, when at the same time, 98% of the current user base don’t have any use for that function. It makes much more sense to stay competitive in the markets they already serve and focus on the apps they already have. (By the way: Chat was already killed. Blogs almost. So as history shows, they are rather narrowing down their app portfolio, not extending it—e.g. just to attract some new people selling trainings.)

I appreciate that some users really really want it (and I would like it too actually as my sites are very education-based), but lets be reasonable about it and not try to convince IPS with rhetorics. Saying it’s really really needed doesn’t make it so and IPS doesn’t fall for that anyway. They know their user base in its entirety. 

in fact i don't know if you know what you are talking about and know what an LMS is?

you say IPS is starting from scratch. A sufficient LMS is based on the presentation of courses in video or pdf format and the validation of these by validation quizzes.

where is the head start?

it is rather IPS which disposes it by the management of user group and member ...

the only head start they have over IPS is in smartphone use because IPS has not been seriously concerned with this point for years.

4 hours ago, opentype said:

Even the existing “additional” apps (Pages, Blogs, Gallery, Downloads, Commerce) only get minor improvements every 1,5 to 2 years. IPS doesn’t have the resources to add another full-fledged app with the required functionality and if you look at which sites use Invision Community, only a fraction even has a use for an LMS. So it just doesn’t work. 

I am seeing paths to possible compromises though. For example: if Pages databases were coming to Clubs, clubs could be sold or offered for free as a “course” you sign up for—with all the lessons added as Pages database records, plus course forums, course calendar and so on. It still wouldn’t have all the bells and whistles of a LMS, but it could be a good solution for many and be fully native to Invision Community. 

An LMS at IPS does not necessarily have to be offered only to people who have a basic forum here.

A lot of people start in the web world as a webmaster just to sell training.

to IPS to know how to sell to these people and attract them by showing them, that it is much more user-friendly and interactive than word press and the LMS learn dash with its third-party applications to work (bb press. member press, BuddyPress .. .)

It is certain that without the LMS, there is a huge shortfall.

I understand that if one thing will not really change at IPS, it is more or less how the forum works (discussion-message) and it has been this system for about twenty years or more.

It seems to work very well for discussion forums about sports, games, ...

But on the point that I have strong doubts, and which I think it is time today to stop hoping and believing, is that in the coming years there will be even more new communities created around of this system of discussions concerning all themes.

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Today if a person has a health problem, will they end up on a discussion forum talking about It and then post their problem to discuss it?

I think not, it is very likely that she will come across an article site related to the subject and offering training to get out of this problem.

We'd rather have a rich article straight to the point than read lots of people discussing it.

Therefore, I think it would be good in the future if it is possible to write a quality article on page with a tool similar to optimizpress, thrive architect on wordpress

Below this article, guest comments about this problem.

And to go further, a private forum, coaching, videos, quizzes, interaction, and motivation to get out of this problem between private members.

I think downloads needs to be updated to become an LMS because just sharing files is no longer attractive today.

This is the logical continuation after the creation of downloads 10 years ago now.

It is interesting that when members have good ideas the shares here with the developers of IPS because they are not necessarily aware of all the latest developments that may exist in community systems, socials, ...

But before wanting to put together a file to present, and participate in long discussions on these subjects, it would be good for IPS to tell us at least what its future intentions are to avoid wasting our time.

They have decided to invest the developers' time in what type of improvement for this next year?

Once we know that, we can better decide to come up with certain things.

What are the problems of this community system today and what improvement can be proposed?

Lack of member participation? Yes, it's true.

But is this problem of concern to IPS?

If so, this point system proposal seems very useful and deserves to be presented.

Ideas ? we have to see what is being done elsewhere.

For example in a clothing shopping site like adidas, it's 100 points for registration, 10 points per euro spent, make a comment 50 points

And different level to reach depending on the number of points with each level giving right to certain privileges.

Today IPS has its fine-tuned reaction system (Like, thanks ..), and I think it prefers to keep things very simple and if you want something more pushing they invite you to go and see the marketplace.

I have doubts that IPS has any intentions of developing another point system.

I hope that one day we will make members participate more in the development of IPS, for example by offering them each month to vote on a minimal improvement among several, and each year a major improvement ...

to come back to the point system proposed here, we should basically start in the article by defining what there is and the meaning of it:

Point:

Badge:

Trophy:

Score:

Classification table :

Positive remark:

How to value the participation of each member and help them write a comment in blog posts, ...