Quote system

[We are Borg]

The quote system can use an overhaul. With the section above i want reverse quotes so you can quote put own text in then continue the quote interject etc. 

[bfarber]

I'm not sure I understand. You can enter any text you want inside and outside of a quote box. Example:

Quote

Random text I supplied for the example

Random text following the quote

[We are Borg]

Yes i know but if people press the quote under a post its contained in a quote box and you cant seem to break that box like you did above.

 

2 hours ago, bfarber said:

I'm not sure I understand. You can enter any text you want inside and outside of a quote box. Example:

 

2 hours ago, bfarber said:

Random text following the quote

Like so. You can't break it how it always worked with BBcode you need to press enter and then it breaks and you can type between the quote boxes. Why not an button in the editor that does this.

[Joy Rex]

I get it - you want it so you can take a quote like this:

Quote

This is a quote, and I'd like to discuss three items: a, b, and c.

And break it up so you can do the following:

Quote

This is a quite and I'd like to discuss three items: a

I think A is great

Quote

b,

B is alright, although somewhat surly

Quote

and c

C however is the very best, and my recommendation.

You're saying this was possible in the 3.x version?

29 minutes ago, We are Borg said:

Yes i know but if people press the quote under a post its contained in a quote box and you cant seem to break that box like you did above.

But, to @bfarber's point - you can type inside the quote box, and even indent it or add emphasis if you wanted to.

Like so. You can't break it how it always worked with BBcode you need to press enter and then it breaks and you can type between the quote boxes. Why not an button in the editor that does this.

See what I did there? Not exactly what you want, but a potential solution.

[We are Borg]

With most Forum software you do quote and it shows as follow.

[QUOTE="we_are_borg, post: 0, member: 1"]Some nonsense[/QUOTE]

So then i can do this

[QUOTE="we_are_borg, post: 0, member: 1"]Some[/quote]here my comment[quote] nonsense[/QUOTE]

@Joy Rex that looks nice but is not a solution for me.

 

[Joy Rex]

1 hour ago, We are Borg said:

With most Forum software you do quote and it shows as follow.

 

[QUOTE="we_are_borg, post: 0, member: 1"]Some nonsense[/QUOTE]

 

So then i can do this

 

[QUOTE="we_are_borg, post: 0, member: 1"]Some[/quote]here my comment[quote] nonsense[/QUOTE]

 

@Joy Rex that looks nice but is not a solution for me.

 

Ah, too bad - it looks like you also want to do it by editing the BBCode? Unfortunately I think that ship has sailed as far as IPS is concerned...

[bfarber]

All you need to do is hit enter twice on the keyboard to break the quote.

[Joel R]

@bfarber

I believe the request by @We are Borg is not about breaking the quote at the END of a quote, but in the middle:

10 hours ago, Joy Rex said:

Ah, too bad - it looks like you also want to do it by editing the BBCode? [Insert Quote Break Here] Unfortunately I think that ship has sailed as far as IPS is concerned...

 

[Thomas P]

12 hours ago, We are Borg said:

[QUOTE="we_are_borg, post: 0, member: 1"]Some[/quote]here my comment[quote] nonsense[/QUOTE]

 

How should the outcome look like? Do you have an example?

[opentype]

So the problem is that you or your users don’t know they need to hit Enter twice? Is that what it is about? The description is not really clear.

Not really sure how to solve this. An editor button would probably cause more confusion, since it’s a context-specific action, that requires the cursor to sit at a very specific spot. I also wouldn’t want to have an inline button pop out all the time I have the cursor in a quote. 

[Martin A.]

2 hours ago, Joel R said:

@bfarber

I believe the request by @We are Borg is not about 

Not impossible to break it in the middle either. You just have to make sure you are on an empty line when you hit enter in order to break out if it. In this case I had to hit enter twice, then move the cursor up one line (to get to the empty line) then hit enter again.

2 hours ago, Joel R said:

breaking the quote at the END of a quote, but in the middle:

 

 

[bfarber]

Yes, you can break in the middle of a quote by hitting enter twice.

[Joel R]

5 hours ago, Martin A. said:

Not impossible to break it in the middle either. You just have to make sure you are on an empty line when you hit enter in order to break out if it. In this case I had to hit enter twice, then move the cursor up one line (to get to the empty line) then hit enter again.

 

Whoa whoa ... Three taps of the enter button?? 

[We are Borg]

8 hours ago, Thomas P said:

How should the outcome look like? Do you have an example?

Some

here my comment

non sense

Doing 3 taps on enter to insert your own comment is not intuitive pressing a button is. 

[Joy Rex]

2 hours ago, We are Borg said:

 

here my comment

 

Doing 3 taps on enter to insert your own comment is not intuitive pressing a button is. 

So rather than hitting enter three times, you would rather:

1. Put your cursor where you want the break
2. Take your hand off the keyboard to grab your mouse
3. Move the mouse to the editor toolbar and click a button
4. Return your hands to the keyboard

Because that's more intuitive? 😕

[We are Borg]

For you and me it works, for the people that visit the site, they have problems with it. Because normal bbcode does not work and they do not know that 3xenter breaks the quote where the put the cursor, its not how other forum software works. So they are in the dark how to proceed, making a button would be easy to break the quote.

[Thomas P]

In this case you can educate/show them, I have posted many how-to articles on our community.

Using some animated gifs, i.e. small videos like this help a lot.

See e.g.: 

https://www.mcseboard.de/uploads/monthly_2019_06/standardverlauf.gif.0d3b4d94c76e45316b13b6bbb0a637c5.gif

Please note that his example does not show quoting...

[Jennifer M]

I had to write an article on how to link images on my site because apparently the double click isn't super intuitive or clicking on the image and then clicking the link button but it's always made sense to me. Sometimes it just takes an explanation and some getting used to, like most new things.

[We are Borg]

Yes you can educate people but if its not inline what they expect to work it becomes harder to teach. Also most of our people are on mobile and some stuff just does not work on iPad for example.