donrocks Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 I've been using IPS since 2005, and couldn't be much happier with the product. I've also always had wonderful customer service. In fact, I'm so happy with the product that I've pretty much vested everything in it. The other day, I was wondering: what would happen to all the work I've done for the past 8 years if Invision were to disappear? The answer that came to mind was one word, one syllable, beginning with an F, and rhyming with "clucked." This may be an awkward forum to ask this question in, but what happens to people like me if Invision were to go away? My hope is that in 2030, my website will be merrily preparing to be handed down to the next generation of ownership, and we will have been satisfied Invision customers for over 25 years! But what if? I don't have enough technical knowledge to know whether or not it's even possible to migrate to another platform. (Let me stress again here, that I have *no* desire to do so - this is more like discussing life insurance when you're young and healthy.) Any thoughts? A response from Invision would also be welcome. Thanks! Don Rockwell www.donrockwell.com
Management Charles Posted May 9, 2013 Management Posted May 9, 2013 That would certainly ruin my day too.
bfarber Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 We have no intention of going anywhere. For our employees this is a full time job - we do not do this in our spare time and we do not work here part time. If you ever did need to migrate, it is certainly doable (at least at present - I can't say what the situation would be in 2030 lol). We have importers for most major software packages out there to migrate to our platform, and some competitors have similar migration tools. I wouldn't expect that to change anytime in the near future.
Dmacleo Posted May 9, 2013 Posted May 9, 2013 life on earth would end. or I'd use something else. hard saying which of the 2 is more accurate.
.Ian Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 I doubt I will be alive in 2030 - so not too worried....
Justin™ Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 We have no intention of going anywhere. For our employees this is a full time job - we do not do this in our spare time and we do not work here part time. If you ever did need to migrate, it is certainly doable (at least at present - I can't say what the situation would be in 2030 lol). We have importers for most major software packages out there to migrate to our platform, and some competitors have similar migration tools. I wouldn't expect that to change anytime in the near future. The Dodo bird had no intentions of disappearing either but, stuff happens. As for migrating to other scripts, I don't expect your 2 main competitors to be around if they keep putting out garbage or taking years for new releases.
bfarber Posted May 13, 2013 Posted May 13, 2013 The Dodo bird had no intentions of disappearing either but, stuff happens. As for migrating to other scripts, I don't expect your 2 main competitors to be around if they keep putting out garbage or taking years for new releases. Well, we can't really control what our competitors do. ;)
Management Charles Posted May 13, 2013 Management Posted May 13, 2013 I'm happy for them to keep doing what they're doing personally ;)
steve00 Posted May 14, 2013 Posted May 14, 2013 The Dodo bird had no intentions of disappearing either but, stuff happens. oh no ... they didn't did they ... darn it ... am always the last one to know :lol:
Makoto Posted May 14, 2013 Posted May 14, 2013 If IPS as a company would suddenly disband, the software would stop getting updates. It wouldn't go away. It would mean that if any security vulnerabilities are discovered in the future, you would be responsible for investigating them and applying patches yourself. But otherwise, who knows. You can't estimate how things will be in 17 years.
Dmacleo Posted May 14, 2013 Posted May 14, 2013 I have decided life on earth would end. so continue to support and purchase IP products to save the world.
MathewC Posted May 14, 2013 Posted May 14, 2013 If IPS as a company would suddenly disband, the software would stop getting updates. It wouldn't go away. It would mean that if any security vulnerabilities are discovered in the future, you would be responsible for investigating them and applying patches yourself. But otherwise, who knows. You can't estimate how things will be in 17 years. Kirito is spot on here. It's the same with most software it'll just not get any future updates to it. But can still use it, like users using very old IP.Board versions ;)
Jυra Posted May 29, 2013 Posted May 29, 2013 IPB is more likely to be the next Xbox One or Opera 15 than to silently go under.
Woodsman Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 I don't plan on leaving this planet until I reach 150. I plan on going out the worlds oldest pain in the ass. So It will be pretty much guaranteed IPS will have to stick around for a minimum of 94 more years... Even if I have to personally dig Charles up and prop him at his desk.
CheersnGears Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 I don't plan on leaving this planet until I reach 150. I plan on going out the worlds oldest pain in the ass. So It will be pretty much guaranteed IPS will have to stick around for a minimum of 94 more years... Even if I have to personally dig Charles up and prop him at his desk. I smell the sql to Weekend at Bernie's! "Weekend at Chucky's!"
Woodsman Posted May 30, 2013 Posted May 30, 2013 I smell the sql to Weekend at Bernie's! "Weekend at Chucky's!" Hmmm Good point... Good thing I am in Wisconsin and he is on the East Coast... Rarely get that kind of an easterly wind... As for the rest will be the proof I still live, so therefore so shall IPS....
JasonO Posted June 3, 2013 Posted June 3, 2013 Good point raised. Not something you think about! It can be quite a shock seeing large businesses go bust overnight. A large major brand vanishes, some after 50-100 years. I don't think IPB has a competitor that can honestly match it in terms of content, service and reliability.
donrocks Posted June 5, 2013 Author Posted June 5, 2013 Good point raised. Not something you think about! It can be quite a shock seeing large businesses go bust overnight. A large major brand vanishes, some after 50-100 years. I don't think IPB has a competitor that can honestly match it in terms of content, service and reliability. I agree with AshGSmith about the competitors unable to match it. Thing is ... I don't need *all* the content, service, reliability; I need for my company not to go under if Invision goes under. Again, since it's privately held, I have no idea if they're the picture of financial health, or if they're going to go bankrupt next week. And *everything I do* is 100% reliant on their existence. Kirito had a (hopefully) good point above - the software would merely stop getting updates; we'd be responsible for security patches, etc. Is this true, and if so, does *anyone* have an idea of what it would entail? I'm going to stress once again, I have *no* plans to ever leave Invision, but I need to know what to do if they ever left me! Yes, I understand the inclination for management to come onto to this thread and joke around about it, but what insurance do I really have? Would it take hiring a full-time programmer? And even if I did, could a full-time programmer figure out how to navigate the innards of IPB? I know these are grim questions, but my life is essentially completely independent of other companies ... *except* for this. It would be a "jolt" to come up with the money to pay a full-time programmer all of a sudden. Thanks to all for this continuing discussion, Don Rockwell www.donrockwell.com
bfarber Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 I'm not really sure why all the doom and gloom. :) We aren't going anywhere, and in fact are working on the next major version of our software. If we were to ever go under, your installation would continue to function just as it does today, minus the extra services (chat, spam service, visual skin editor mainly). Your site would remain online. As for further updates, well if we weren't around any longer then yes, you would need a developer to assist you making any further updates to the software (unless of course you learned how to program in PHP yourself).
Dmacleo Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 nobody can ever guarantee an entity will be around forever.
Woodsman Posted June 5, 2013 Posted June 5, 2013 nobody can ever guarantee an entity will be around forever. Like Eternity In Life I will never see it. After I kick the bucket for the last time I will get to live it. And all here will be done with one exception... End Cap: Poor Charles will still be propped at his desk taking... Well you get the point :frantics:
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