Management Matt Posted October 10, 2010 Management Share Posted October 10, 2010 As always we have to consider our entire customer base when contemplating adding or changing functionality. We wouldn't want to react to every passing whim or our product will be a middling mess of different concepts and ideas. As always we appreciate the feedback and are always looking for ways to move the product forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Wers Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I don't like "new" Rep system at all. I want back green plus and red minus buttons. It seems some people without Facebook can not live. It's like virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Matt Posted October 11, 2010 Management Share Posted October 11, 2010 I don't like "new" Rep system at all. I want back green plus and red minus buttons. It seems some people without Facebook can not live. It's like virus. Don't worry, I was only testing a hook I slapped together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Wers Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 That's good Matt :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony. Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 The only real differences between XF's Like and IPB's rep are: [list=1] [*]XF calls it Like, IPB uses a (+) icon [*]XF throws up a Red indicator in your face when you receive a Like, IPB throws up a subtle Gray indicator [/list] Both of these 2 things can be changed very easily - it's all just template edits...and IPB's "rep" system will operate almost identically to XF's "Like" system. To those getting confused and referring to Facebook in this thread - the Like functionality being discussed here has nothing to do with Facebook. Thanks Ryan ... I am sure all these things are a tweak here and a tweak there ... my point is that these things are now " best practices " and should be default ... besides 500,000,000+ Facebook members are used to the red alert ... somebody is doing something right. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor J Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 In my honest opinion, this should not be a default option but a hook/application as we already have a rep system, which has been mentioned many times is it is exactly like the like system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Matt Posted October 11, 2010 Management Share Posted October 11, 2010 I released a basic "like" hook on my blog here: http://blog.mattmecham.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Turbis Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I released a basic "like" hook on my blog here: http://blog.mattmecham.com sexy sexy sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Wers Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 I released a basic "like" hook on my blog here: http://blog.mattmecham.com Hmm, I have to say: Not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Matt Posted October 11, 2010 Management Share Posted October 11, 2010 Thanks Ryan ... I am sure all these things are a tweak here and a tweak there ... my point is that these things are now " best practices " and should be default ... besides 500,000,000+ Facebook members are used to the red alert ... somebody is doing something right. :) I think Facebook has 500m users for many reasons but not solely because of a single feature be that a 'like' link or any other minor feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Turbis Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Hmm, I have to say: Not bad. Not bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Wers Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Not bad? Read 52nd post in this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Turbis Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Read 52nd post in this topic. I see... so you're gradually changing your mind aren't you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Legg Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Hi Matt, Just looked at your demo and it looks pretty impressive. Personally I want to say a huge thank you for creating it :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastaX Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishfish0001 Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Just felt like pointing out that a "Like Button/System" is just the current rep system except instead of numbers, it just lists the names (even though this system does too). I don't see what the big hoopla is about though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan R Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I released a basic "like" hook on my blog here: http://blog.mattmecham.com *like*, err, I mean +rep :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor J Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Just felt like pointing out that a "Like Button/System" is just the current rep system except instead of numbers, it just lists the names (even though this system does too). I don't see what the big hoopla is about though. Yeah thats been stated many times, just seems that those xf addon lovers can't get it through their head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Fox Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 It'd be nice to get the code to display inline, "John, Mary and x others liked this post" rather than having to click on the ## to see who voted it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Matt Posted October 12, 2010 Management Share Posted October 12, 2010 Superficially a like system is similar to a reputation system but there is a world of difference. "Like" allows you to tell the world that you liked the post content. A reputation system allows you to up-vote and down-vote content. This then allows you to filter out posts below a certain threshold. This effectively crowd moderates content. If used properly it's a powerful tool. I'd say that it's not widely utilized in IP.Board because it's not immediately obvious what it does and we plan to improve the rep interface in future versions. I would be reluctant to throw out that functionality simply because the current trend is to "like". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Fox Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Good point Matt. When seamlessly integrated, particularly if down-rated posts were displayed slightly greyed out (rather than the user needing to adjust the view filter), and good ones highlighted, then rep will be a great tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat B Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 When you think about it, IMO the rep system accomplishes the single most requested feature of Facebook as well - a dislike button. Ever seen a post on Facebook, and just so wished you could click "Dislike" on it? Well, with IPB you can just neg-rep it! Combine with some templating to switching out the +/- for "Like"/"Dislike", you've got yourself a system even more complete than Facebook's. My personal opinion only of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier Turbis Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 You are right, Mat B, but I think we should be able to change our mind. Sometimes you click the - button while you really wanted to click the + etc. Our sometimes we can just change our mind and decide to like a post instead of disliking it. Also, if we're going to stick with the reputation system I think we should replace the + and - buttons with a top and down arrow like Vanilla does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanax Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I think Facebook has 500m users for many reasons but not solely because of a single feature be that a 'like' link or any other minor feature. Facebook has 500m users. Those 500m users, or at least a great chunk of them are USED to the "like" system and that's what I think he wanted to point out. The majority knows that system. They have no problems with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 Facebook has 500m users. Those 500m users, or at least a great chunk of them are USED to the "like" system and that's what I think he wanted to point out. The majority knows that system. They have no problems with it. IP.Board is not Facebook, it should not be expected to do everything Facebook does just because Facebook has 500 million members. Should IP.Board remove the ability to have separate skins, since Facebook doesn't give you the option to drastically change how the site looks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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