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Management Matt Posted September 21, 2022 Management Posted September 21, 2022 As you may have noticed, we've been doing a lot of work to prepare Invision Community to use PHP8 as the minimum version. If you are an Invision Community Cloud client, then you do not need to worry about any of this, and can happily click out of this topic. For those who host Invision Community on their own servers, then please read on. PHP7 is now end of life and from November, PHP will no longer offer security updates. PHP8 is a major update which brings many changes including how errors are either logged and means that what was a harmless notice or log entry is now a fatal error which Invision Community cannot capture. We have introduced the application and plugin scanner to ensure that your site is not "bricked" (unrecoverable from a fatal error) when you upgrade to PHP8 although you currently have the option to re-enable any disabled applications or plugins. From the November 2022 release, we will require PHP8.0 as the minimum version. If you are currently using PHP7 then you must contact your host and plan your PHP8 upgrade to ensure compatibility with Invision Community from November onwards.We are rolling out dismissible AdminCP banners to those who are currently on PHP7. If you are unsure what version of PHP your server is running, simply log into your Admin CP then navigate to System > Get Support and check out the PHP version block. The November release of Invision Community will also mean that you are no longer able to re-enable plugins the application scanner disables. We continue to work on this tool to refine its error checking and logging verbosity. If you have any questions, please let me know below. SeNioR-, Ioannis D, abobader and 10 others 11 1 1
ChrisVanMeer Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Yeah about that, I got this in the mail: It says I am using PHP 7.4. But the support tool has a different opinion
Marc Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, ChrisVanMeer said: Yeah about that, I got this in the mail: It says I am using PHP 7.4. But the support tool has a different opinion Do you have any test instances running anywhere at all?
ChrisVanMeer Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said: Do you have any test instances running anywhere at all? I do, but that is at the same PHP level.
Nathan Explosion Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Assumption made: the notification is generated by a background task on the relevant site Theory: Task method is set to CRON The CRON task itself is using PHP 7.4.x for PHP, while the site itself is using a different version Resolution: Modify the CRON details in your scheduler Stuart Silvester, Day_, SeNioR- and 5 others 6 2
ChrisVanMeer Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Thanks @Nathan Explosion that probably was the cause. I forgot to change the cron job during the PHP upgrade.
Nathan Explosion Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Hisashi, ChrisVanMeer, Jim M and 1 other 1 3
Day_ Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Came here looking for the same thing, so thanks! SeNioR- 1
Marc Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Nathan Explosion said: Assumption made: the notification is generated by a background task on the relevant site Theory: Task method is set to CRON The CRON task itself is using PHP 7.4.x for PHP, while the site itself is using a different version Resolution: Modify the CRON details in your scheduler Very good spot 🙂
Washerhelp Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Hi. I've got the same thing despite being on php 8. I can see the potential explanation above, but how do I fix it? I have the following cron job on my server, I've had a look at the task.php file. I can't see any reference to php 7 anywhere. php -d memory_limit=-1 -d max_execution_time=0 /home/customer/www/washerhelp.co.uk/public_html/forums/applications/core/interface/task/task.php cd0e5a90ec46904f51980f7f8bd36132
Marc Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 You would need to ask your hosting company the question there
Washerhelp Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, Marc Stridgen said: You would need to ask your hosting company the question there Hi Marc, are you saying that despite my server running on PHP 8.1.10 somehow the cron jobs are not?
Jim M Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Washerhelp said: Hi. I've got the same thing despite being on php 8. I can see the potential explanation above, but how do I fix it? I have the following cron job on my server, I've had a look at the task.php file. I can't see any reference to php 7 anywhere. php -d memory_limit=-1 -d max_execution_time=0 /home/customer/www/washerhelp.co.uk/public_html/forums/applications/core/interface/task/task.php cd0e5a90ec46904f51980f7f8bd36132 If you are unsure what version of PHP is executing your CRON jobs, it would be advised to contact your host provider or server administrator for assistance.
Washerhelp Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Jim M said: If you are unsure what version of PHP is executing your CRON jobs, it would be advised to contact your host provider or server administrator for assistance. Hi Marc, maybe I was being stupid for assuming if my server is running PHP 8 then, it's running on PHP 8? 🙂
Marc Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Washerhelp said: Hi Marc, maybe I was being stupid for assuming if my server is running PHP 8 then, it's running on PHP 8? 🙂 Your site running on PHP8 doesnt mean your tasks are running on PHP 8. Please check this with your hosting company
Washerhelp Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 I will do Marc, was assuming my server is running on php 8, which is set in my hosting company dashboard and didn't realise Cron jobs weren't run from my actual website. Hence my puzzlement. I'll check with them. SJ77 1
Dexter_X Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 HI, I've tried to set up the 8.0 or 8.1 PHP version but it only makes our community to display a blank screen. I've enabled all the available modules and nothing changes. Could you please be more precise on what PHP modules are needed by our communities in PHP 8.X to work properly. And maybe someway to debug the community in order to know why we got a blank screen ? Thankyou, D RoHAdmin 1
Jim M Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Just now, Dexter_X said: HI, I've tried to set up the 8.0 or 8.1 PHP version but it only makes our community to display a blank screen. I've enabled all the available modules and nothing changes. Could you please be more precise on what PHP modules are needed by our communities in PHP 8.X to work properly. And maybe someway to debug the community in order to know why we got a blank screen ? Thankyou, D More than likely if you're getting a blank screen and you're running third party applications/plugins, you will want to check that they are compatible with PHP 8. I would advise disabling those and switching to an unmodified theme to test before going to PHP 8. Anytime you get a blank screen though, you will want to check with your hosting provider to obtain a server error log entry to confirm what is happening. Then you can review what is happening in that log and debug the error on your community. To disable all third party applications/plugins, you can of course use recovery mode too: https://invisioncommunity.com/4guides/client-services/getting-support-r292/#recoverymode
Clover13 Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 FWIW, my site converted smoothly, but not running many third party apps/plugins. Invision Community Version 4.7.2.1 PHP Version 8.1.10 Database Version 10.6.10-MariaDB I did get a notice on the GMP PHP extension missing that I'm looking to get resolved with my host. Quote Web Push UnavailableUnfortunately, your server does not have the GMP PHP extension installed. Please contact your host or consider switching to Invision Cloud Community which has Web Push Notifications enabled. It does bring up the same question as @Dexter_X regarding what the list of PHP modules required (or optionally beneficial, i.e. caching) are.
Washerhelp Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 I got in touch with my hosting tech support as suggested. I had no idea that when you set your website to run on PHP 8 that the Cron jobs don't change and have to be told to use PHP 8 "manually". This seems crazy, but if it is the case, it would be great if Invision told us this when advising us to change to PHP 8? If this information is made clear, then my bad - and please accept apologies 🙂 They changed the Cron from - php -d memory_limit=-1 -d max_execution_time=0 /home/customer/www/washerhelp.co.uk/public_html/forums/applications/core/interface/task/task.php cd0e5a90ec46904f51980f7f8bd36132 To php80 -d memory_limit=-1 -d max_execution_time=0 /home/customer/www/washerhelp.co.uk/public_html/forums/applications/core/interface/task/task.php cd0e5a90ec46904f51980f7f8bd36132 Hopefully that will wok OK. But 2 queries arose from the investigation. First, the permissions on task.php are set at 777? (not me) and second, what is the strange set of numbers and letters at the end of the Cron syntax and does it need deleting cd0e5a90ec46904f51980f7f8bd36132 ? I got the syntax initially from somewhere at Invision SeNioR- 1
teraßyte Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Yes the task.php file needs to be 777 in order to run properly. And the key at the end (set of numbers and letters) is a parameter that gets passed to the backend code when it runs. Leave everything as is and you're good. 👍 SJ77 and Washerhelp 1 1
Clover13 Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) EDIT: Nevermind I see the path, had to scroll Edited September 22, 2022 by Clover13 Washerhelp 1
Clover13 Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, teraßyte said: Yes the task.php file needs to be 777 in order to run properly. And the key at the end (set of numbers and letters) is a parameter that gets passed to the backend code when it runs. Leave everything as is and you're good. 👍 Mine at /applications/core/interface/task/task.php is 744
Jim M Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, Washerhelp said: This seems crazy, but if it is the case, it would be great if Invision told us this when advising us to change to PHP 8? If this information is made clear, then my bad - and please accept apologies 🙂 Glad to hear you got this sorted. Keep in mind, when running CRON, this is a server-side tool, your hosting provider is the best source for the best command to be running. Washerhelp, SeNioR- and Clover13 2 1
Dexter_X Posted September 22, 2022 Posted September 22, 2022 Thankyou @Jim M, I've found an old third party app that was causing the blank screen. I don't know what to do now because it is an app we use as main management for our community, but at least I know where the problem cames from... @Washerhelp thankyou but I already know you need to type the right PHP path into your cron task from your hosting management panel. My problem did not come from there. But regarding what you say, when you check "cron task" in the community settings it tells you what you need to type, including the path, you only need to make a "copy paste" and job's done ! 😉 And beware for the others, the PHP path is not always the same, it depends on your hosting installation, you need to refer to the ACP path to type the right one ! Thankyou all for your advices, now at least I know where my problems came from. SeNioR-, Clover13 and Washerhelp 2 1
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