Hello,

so i tested IPS 4 (4.0.8.1) in the last week with a large database of almost 6 GB of data (self hosted dual xeon at 2,5 ghz so 8 physical cores, 8 gb ddr2, raid1 software on two old 250 GB hdd) and overall i am pretty dissapointed. I expected more visible performance after all this time while IPS4 was developed but unfortunately not for me.

So Debian 8 with mariadb 10.0.16, nginx 1.6.2 and php5-fpm (5.6.9) with apcu.

1. The ACP is a mess. I know it's supposed to be simplified and bla bla easier, bla bla but for a 3.4.8 customer it is very hard to find the usual settings AGAIN. Probably for a new customer would be okay but for me.. oh my god..
2. Is the Search Admin CP autocompleting after 5 characters of more? WTH, make it from 3 minim !
3. And what is the deal with constants.php needing to be downloaded and re-uploaded to the site after each caching change? Who does that in 2015?
4. How do i recache the website?
5. Awful memcache performance !
6. Awful APCu performance !
7. Why that awful pagination style at Members - Groups? Why not putting the usual number in a box pagination instead of forcing me click on "Page 1 of 2" then increasing to page 2 and then clicking the go button? From what era is this style of presentation?
8. Statistics - New post statistics ALWAYS gives "EX2 Something went wrong. Please try again."..
9. After few days the buttons from Customization - Editor - Toolbars just dissappeared. And i only installed few plugins from the official marketplace. Where are the buttons? How do i recache that part? Clicking Add toolbar adds a blank toolbar.

So overall very dissapointed of IPS4 while IP.Board 3.4.8 runs excellent !

4. ACP >> System >> Support < something not working correct >> click continue and it will re-cache the website 

I sympathise with your disappointment, but if your experience is anything like mine then it will get better.

It's taken me six weeks of tweaking since the upgrade, finally the performance is returning.

Am not out of the woods yet. Still the "View new content" filtering is completely broken, and this is a core part of my forum.

I sympathise with your disappointment, but if your experience is anything like mine then it will get better.

It's taken me six weeks of tweaking since the upgrade, finally the performance is returning.

I do not understand why we have to tweak, why the product it isnt improving and we have to always fiddle around with settings..

I suppose every setup is different. It depends on your server, shared hosting or dedicated, big box or little box, OS, PHP, and DB versions, etc.

No product can be optimised by default for all possible permutations.

so i tested IPS 4 (4.0.8.1) in the last week with a large database of almost 6 GB of data

Then most likely you're still running the several tasks in background, which makes the board slow at this stage.

 

Is the Search Admin CP autocompleting after 5 characters of more? WTH, make it from 3 minim !

Actually 4 characters, so smack in the middle there.

Then most likely you're still running the several tasks in background, which makes the board slow at this stage.

Yes, several but.. they don't seem to really work thats why i am trying running them manually while getting 500 errors all over the place. php execution time is at 90 seconds now, the dedicated server is not that old (dual xeon 2,5 ghz, 8 gb ram..)

https://community.invisionpower.com/topic/416895-ips4-500-errors-after-a-test-forum-upgrade-from-348/

Yes, several but.. they don't seem to really work thats why i am trying running them manually while getting 500 errors all over the place.

It's a clear sign that something isn't right. Have you submitted a ticket ?

Actually 4 characters, so smack in the middle there.

Weird: while looking for "html" (the enable html toggle) i could not find anything at Settings..

It's a clear sign that something isn't right. Have you submitted a ticket ?

Few minutes ago. By the way: i'm a big fan of your plugins - please keep up that very good work.

Few minutes ago. By the way: i'm a big fan of your plugins - please keep up that very good work.

Thank you.  

I mean a ticket support on Client Area, not a support topic.

I mean a ticket support on Client Area, not a support topic.

Yes, of course: i linked them to both of my topics related to the game breaking issues.

Cool - don't do the workaround suggested in the other thread...let them try to figure it out.

Waiting for a more stable and highly optimized 4.x version to renew my license

Waiting for a more stable and highly optimized 4.x version to renew my license

I consider the 4.0.8 the Gold version.

Waiting for a more stable and highly optimized 4.x version to renew my license

I am sorry: i would not rule out issues on my end but.. IP.Board 3.4.8 works awesome for me!

I consider the 4.0.8 the Gold version.

Stable? Maybe. But highly optimized (in terms of performance)? I doubt it  

I am sorry: i would not rule out issues on my end but.. IP.Board 3.4.8 works awesome for me!

I tested several beta and RC versions, and once upgraded my forum to RC but then decided to go back to 3.4.7. Now I'm happy with my decision  

Stable? Maybe. But highly optimized (in terms of performance)? I doubt it  

The software will get better when more and more people use it and shows the problems with it.

If you remain seated and waiting, it can take longer.

Trying xcache but the performance seems so far the same as with memcached and apcu.

The software will get better when more and more people use it and shows the problems with it.

If you remain seated and waiting, it can take longer.

You are right, but I have no choice. The experience of my forum users is more important (especially when I do not have a hosting server with a very good amount of resources). I "contributed" during betas and RCs, though

I don't like 4x either, I think it looks dated and messy, aside from the performance issues. I do like some of the new features but feel they should have been used to perfect the 3x series, rather than a new version.

I won't be upgrading any time soon.

Ok, so my conclusion is Debian 8 sucks so much with its nginx, php-fpm, mariadb and memcached versions/builds. IPS4 runs AWESOME with memcached on a Arch Linux up-to-date with the same components but more recent versions.

Ok, so my conclusion is Debian 8 sucks so much with its nginx, php-fpm, mariadb and memcached versions/builds. IPS4 runs AWESOME with memcached on a Arch Linux up-to-date with the same components but more recent versions.

Hey @LinkMania care to share your nginx config? 

@LinkMania - we can't begin to describe how much we appreciate the followup. We keep saying over and over that IPS4 will run amazingly well on a proper setup, but it's less forgiving from a hosting standpoint than IP.Board was because it's leveraging later technologies and has greater demands that are going to highlight existing hosting issues. 

Good job on a good setup and thanks again for sharing.