RevengeFNF

It would be nice Jordan if you can understand and implement, community feedback in your blogs. Here are few for you again:
https://invisioncommunity.com/news/invision-community/new-live-community-features-r1260/?do=findComment&comment=241259
https://invisioncommunity.com/news/invision-community/new-live-community-features-r1260/?do=findComment&comment=241264
It's not big ask - from AlexWebsites, Adriano and many others to clearly indicate in blog title - Cloud only feature. 
 
 

Why don't you use a pre-fix with the title like: [Cloud Only] New Live Community Features!
Save all us self-hosters some time in our day...

Will this also be available for self-hosted instances?

Automated response saying that server issues are not supported. Simple.
If not, it would also be best for IPS to remove Elasticsearch and Redis features from the self hosted clients, because the reason is the same.

You are talking about Xenforo or Vbulletin?
We already have features in teh self hosted to use Redis and Elasticsearch if we want. I don't see any reason why we wounldn't also be able to use Node JS if we wanted to.
If im not mistaken, the realtime new features uses Node JS. IPS already submitted the code to the cloud platform, why not doing it also for the self host, and who wants to use, they simple install and configure Node JS. The ones that can't do that or don't want do that, well, they don't use the feature. 
We already do that with Redis and Elasticsearch.

Are you being sarcastic?
When IPS 4.0 was released with tons of new features, not 1, not 6, but tons... I don't remember IPS asking more money to pay all those new features.
Is just how things works. 
Are you saying that for us to have just 6 new features in a major upgrade version, we can't have them because they cost money? Doesn't all clients pay to have an active license?
That's a problem of the self hosted clients, not IPS.
If IPS one day says: "Self hosted clients won't have access to IPS 5.0 because its to demanding for the servers of our clients", it seems you would agree with that.
If a self hosted client is able to buy a server and run IPS on it, don't you think he is able to do the rest? The hard part is already done. That's a very weak excuse.
 

You are talking about Xenforo or Vbulletin?
We already have features in teh self hosted to use Redis and Elasticsearch if we want. I don't see any reason why we wounldn't also be able to use Node JS if we wanted to.
If im not mistaken, the realtime new features uses Node JS. IPS already submitted the code to the cloud platform, why not doing it also for the self host, and who wants to use, they simple install and configure Node JS. The ones that can't do that or don't want do that, well, they don't use the feature. 
We already do that with Redis and Elasticsearch.

Matt, i think I'm also not wrong if i say that not many community platforms are cutting down features from the self hosted clients.
I know your official stance is that there are no plans to shutdown the self hosted clients, but the reality is that it seems so.
There is no single reason to make trending content exclusive to the more expensive cloud plans, besides trying to force your clients to move to the cloud. That's the only reason.

From what i've seen, the new relevant features of IPS 4.7 are this ones:
Alerts Real Time Who's Typing Real Time Who's Viewing Search will include images Sentiment analysis data collection Trending Content Then we have some minor changes and bug fixing.
Of all the new relevant features in 4.7, only Alerts have come to the self hosted clients.
I'm following Invision since 2003, almost 20 years ago, and never in my life i've seen a major number upgrade with only one new relevant feature for self hosted clients.
Six new relevant features, and only one comes to the majority of your clients.
My curiosity is eager to know what will come next. Will self hosted clients get IPS 5.0? I have my doubts, if all the best features start to be exclusive to the Cloud Plans, there is no reason for a 5.0 other than the Cloud.

This is a great feature, and one that will most likely make me renew my license again. Well done. 

This is a great feature, and one that will most likely make me renew my license again. Well done. 

This is a great feature, and one that will most likely make me renew my license again. Well done. 

Now just add real time views and typing to self hosting and I'll sign a NCA (Non-crying agreement) for an entire year.

Matt, i think I'm also not wrong if i say that not many community platforms are cutting down features from the self hosted clients.
I know your official stance is that there are no plans to shutdown the self hosted clients, but the reality is that it seems so.
There is no single reason to make trending content exclusive to the more expensive cloud plans, besides trying to force your clients to move to the cloud. That's the only reason.

But in all seriousness I do understand self-hosted clients' side of things. I was a self-hoster for 10+ years before moving my community to the cloud. It's been an amazing switch (and no Matt didn't slip me a $20 to say that). It genuinely has been a great experience.
I do understand not everyone is in a position to move and feels frustrated hearing about features they, at this moment, can't include. I think having these conversations are important and I hope we can learn to see eye-to-eye. At the end of the day we're all here because we love Invision Community. 

Automated response saying that server issues are not supported. Simple.
If not, it would also be best for IPS to remove Elasticsearch and Redis features from the self hosted clients, because the reason is the same.

You are talking about Xenforo or Vbulletin?
We already have features in teh self hosted to use Redis and Elasticsearch if we want. I don't see any reason why we wounldn't also be able to use Node JS if we wanted to.
If im not mistaken, the realtime new features uses Node JS. IPS already submitted the code to the cloud platform, why not doing it also for the self host, and who wants to use, they simple install and configure Node JS. The ones that can't do that or don't want do that, well, they don't use the feature. 
We already do that with Redis and Elasticsearch.

You are talking about Xenforo or Vbulletin?
We already have features in teh self hosted to use Redis and Elasticsearch if we want. I don't see any reason why we wounldn't also be able to use Node JS if we wanted to.
If im not mistaken, the realtime new features uses Node JS. IPS already submitted the code to the cloud platform, why not doing it also for the self host, and who wants to use, they simple install and configure Node JS. The ones that can't do that or don't want do that, well, they don't use the feature. 
We already do that with Redis and Elasticsearch.

You are talking about Xenforo or Vbulletin?
We already have features in teh self hosted to use Redis and Elasticsearch if we want. I don't see any reason why we wounldn't also be able to use Node JS if we wanted to.
If im not mistaken, the realtime new features uses Node JS. IPS already submitted the code to the cloud platform, why not doing it also for the self host, and who wants to use, they simple install and configure Node JS. The ones that can't do that or don't want do that, well, they don't use the feature. 
We already do that with Redis and Elasticsearch.

You are talking about Xenforo or Vbulletin?
We already have features in teh self hosted to use Redis and Elasticsearch if we want. I don't see any reason why we wounldn't also be able to use Node JS if we wanted to.
If im not mistaken, the realtime new features uses Node JS. IPS already submitted the code to the cloud platform, why not doing it also for the self host, and who wants to use, they simple install and configure Node JS. The ones that can't do that or don't want do that, well, they don't use the feature. 
We already do that with Redis and Elasticsearch.

Automated response saying that server issues are not supported. Simple.
If not, it would also be best for IPS to remove Elasticsearch and Redis features from the self hosted clients, because the reason is the same.

Matt, i think I'm also not wrong if i say that not many community platforms are cutting down features from the self hosted clients.
I know your official stance is that there are no plans to shutdown the self hosted clients, but the reality is that it seems so.
There is no single reason to make trending content exclusive to the more expensive cloud plans, besides trying to force your clients to move to the cloud. That's the only reason.

Are you being sarcastic?
When IPS 4.0 was released with tons of new features, not 1, not 6, but tons... I don't remember IPS asking more money to pay all those new features.
Is just how things works. 
Are you saying that for us to have just 6 new features in a major upgrade version, we can't have them because they cost money? Doesn't all clients pay to have an active license?
That's a problem of the self hosted clients, not IPS.
If IPS one day says: "Self hosted clients won't have access to IPS 5.0 because its to demanding for the servers of our clients", it seems you would agree with that.
If a self hosted client is able to buy a server and run IPS on it, don't you think he is able to do the rest? The hard part is already done. That's a very weak excuse.
 

From what i've seen, the new relevant features of IPS 4.7 are this ones:
Alerts Real Time Who's Typing Real Time Who's Viewing Search will include images Sentiment analysis data collection Trending Content Then we have some minor changes and bug fixing.
Of all the new relevant features in 4.7, only Alerts have come to the self hosted clients.
I'm following Invision since 2003, almost 20 years ago, and never in my life i've seen a major number upgrade with only one new relevant feature for self hosted clients.
Six new relevant features, and only one comes to the majority of your clients.
My curiosity is eager to know what will come next. Will self hosted clients get IPS 5.0? I have my doubts, if all the best features start to be exclusive to the Cloud Plans, there is no reason for a 5.0 other than the Cloud.

Matt, i think I'm also not wrong if i say that not many community platforms are cutting down features from the self hosted clients.
I know your official stance is that there are no plans to shutdown the self hosted clients, but the reality is that it seems so.
There is no single reason to make trending content exclusive to the more expensive cloud plans, besides trying to force your clients to move to the cloud. That's the only reason.