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Omri Amos

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Hi,

I'm just wondering... do you realize that the IPS Marketplace is completely useless at its current state?
90% of the items, all the "highest rated", "most downloaded", search results.... everything just shows prehistoric plugins that are compatible with IPB 3.x only, and completely irrelevant for anything from the recent years....

Just wanted to point that out in case you missed it.

I consider IPS 4.x to be a standalone app that is coming "as is", with no plugins available... that is because I honestly couldn't find any useful plugin for IPS 4 at all.
And that's a shame :(

 

 

Simon Woods Rising Star

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There is good stuff in the Marketplace. Using search will fail you on most things, since it is mostly terrible by any regular person's standard, let alone people looking for third-party software.

Adriano Faria Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Omri Amos said:

Hi,

I'm just wondering... do you realize that the IPS Marketplace is completely useless at its current state?
90% of the items, all the "highest rated", "most downloaded", search results.... everything just shows prehistoric plugins that are compatible with IPB 3.x only, and completely irrelevant for anything from the recent years....

Just wanted to point that out in case you missed it.

I consider IPS 4.x to be a standalone app that is coming "as is", with no plugins available... that is because I honestly couldn't find any useful plugin for IPS 4 at all.
And that's a shame :(

It's just math!

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  • IP.Board 3.0 was released in 2009
  • IPS 4 was released in sep 2015

So it's pretty reasonable to find more resources to IP.Board 3. So obviously, old files has more downloads, reviews, etc.

Someone else already requested to IPS to "filter" that blocks only for new stuff; couldn't find the topic.

Simon Woods Rising Star

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It's sad to say but I stopped paying attention to that storefront page a while ago. Navigating through the categories is more productive, even if just the thought of that deters most people from the Marketplace entirely. You've got to grit your teeth and work around the idea IPS currently has for a "store".

Joel R Mentor

Joel R

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That brings up a good point to archive / hide the old v3 files so the new v4 files can be found.  The homepage of Marketplace is useless.  

The Marketplace itself, though, is quite useful.  

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Lindy Grand Master

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With the help of Omri's keen observations and insightful feedback, I am pleased to report that I have just made the Marketplace great again!™

- Lindy / Omri 2016. 

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Lindy Grand Master

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3 minutes ago, CP said:

I am sorry, I fail to see how you made the marketplace great again? 

The complaint was the homepage showing "prehistoric" and "useless" information. It no longer does so. You're welcome.

InsideEdge Enthusiast

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1 hour ago, Lindy said:

With the help of Omri's keen observations and insightful feedback, I am pleased to report that I have just made the Marketplace great again!™

- Lindy / Omri 2016. 

 

Thank you !

Adriano Faria Grand Master

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8 hours ago, Lindy said:

With the help of Omri's keen observations and insightful feedback, I am pleased to report that I have just made the Marketplace great again!™

- Lindy / Omri 2016. 

There's only one problem here. The change made also affects the My Paid Files page: https://invisionpower.com/contributors/files/

There are no 3.X  files there and sometimes we need to know who bought what, etc.

Example: 3.x files are still available to be purchased, so I need to know who's buying/requesting support because I still support PAID submissions.

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Lindy Grand Master

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19 hours ago, Adriano Faria said:

There's only one problem here. The change made also affects the My Paid Files page: https://invisionpower.com/contributors/files/

There are no 3.X  files there and sometimes we need to know who bought what, etc.

Example: 3.x files are still available to be purchased, so I need to know who's buying/requesting support because I still support PAID submissions.

There's a contributor topic you're welcome to add to, as necessary. As you may recall, the contributors polled wanted to stop sales of IPB3 resources, so there should not have been anything available for purchase for a couple of months now. Feel free to contact me if that wasn't the case. 

Omri Amos Collaborator

Omri Amos

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On 9/30/2016 at 0:24 AM, R-023 said:

I don't agree, there are a lot of nice and useful apps and plugins. 

 

Did you even bother to read my full post?

Thank you Lindy for making the marketplace great again!
 

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On 9/29/2016 at 3:11 PM, Adriano Faria said:

I only pay attention to the What's New block. ^_^

This!

I try to check in often to see whats new. Sometimes I miss things as they can fall off the list quickly.

If I could have one wish it would be to allow the whats new list to work for more than a few items. I wish I could work may way back in time as far as I would like to go.

 

Adriano Faria Grand Master

Adriano Faria

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Just now, superj707 said:

Sometimes I miss things as they can fall off the list quickly.

Downloads shows only latest 14 files there. I use that block in 2 of my apps but I let the admin decide, via setting, how many items will be display there.

Honestly, 14 is not enough. Should list more.

Joel R Mentor

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More broadly, I don't understand why IPS hardcoded these two blocks.  They should be blocks with settings like any other block.  

For websites that don't get a lot new files, you list less.  For websites that get a lot of new files, you list more.

I think the past few responses suggest that the Whats New queue doesn't even work for IPS' own Marketplace.  I don't understand how IPS thinks those hardcoded settings will be appropriate for the multitude of our websites.  

Joel R Mentor

Joel R

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1 hour ago, Lindy said:

I'll see what I can do about the blocks. In the interim, the activity stream is a perfect use case for this. I have created a stream you may like https://invisionpower.com/discover/668/

If I wanted a stream then why use your IP.Downloads homepage? Why don't you slap the stream on IP.Downloads homepage because, ultimately, that's the kind of infinite customization your clients demand? 

From a larger perspective:

IP.Gallery, IP.Downloads, and IP.Commerce suffer from having hard coded blocks.  IPS has a very powerful model of offering customized blocks that can be placed into zones, but you're shortchanging that model by hard coding those apps' homepage blocks.  

I think Video box by @onlyME is a good example of an extensible front-page using mix and match of blocks unique to that app.

 

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