iacas Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Why does it take several attempts at embedding YouTube videos? http://thesandtrap.com/forums/topic/85243-embedding-youtube-videos-on-this-site/ My members were getting so frustrated I had to make the video showing how I will embed videos, which basically involves pasting the URL 5-10 times with returns after each, and then deleting the many which didn't embed and occasionally one or two extra that did, leaving just one. Is this like this for everyone? Why is it so difficult? Why does "ipsnoembed=true" seem to be tacked on so readily to paragraphs, links, etc.? More importantly… What can be done to make this more reliable?
Management Charles Posted November 5, 2015 Management Posted November 5, 2015 All you should have to do is paste the URL in on its own line and press enter. If that's not working please submit a ticket so we can have a look.
jp Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 It doesn't work on my site either. I have to do what @iacas has suggested as well to make it work. (copy past the link numerous times and wait and see which one works then delete the other links)
dcallisto Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Same, although my members are having a bigger issue with it than I am. Most of the time when I paste a YouTube URL, hit enter, it works. However, I have members and moderators who say it doesn't work for them half the time. Inconsistent, I haven't been able to pin it down to anything specific (browser type, mobile/desktop, etc).
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 It happens on this site when you use the share URL from YT, you have to paste it again and it works. Chrome.
iacas Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 34 minutes ago, Charles said: All you should have to do is paste the URL in on its own line and press enter. If that's not working please submit a ticket so we can have a look. It's never worked reliably at all. It frustrates users, it frustrates moderators… it frustrates everyone. It works the first time you paste a link half the time or so, and that number drops if the text copied is already formatted as a "link". It works pretty smoothly here, but not at all smoothly on my site. Or the sites of others, judging by the comments here already.
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Agreed it only happens sometimes. Very spotty. Can the parser lag like with mentions?
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Related or unrelated, why won't a link post a plain text? https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 That was "pasted as plain text." I know in 3.4 there were issues with that, and it would only show as a link and not embed. And I think I remember in earlier versions here, it pasting automatically as text for embedding, but I could be wrong. But now it won't even paste as text so it could be related.
iacas Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 I just pasted the same link (which is actually "8 Inch Hole Capture Speed" - and yes, that's how it copied to my clipboard) here 20 times. It embedded every time. I pasted it in a new thread on my site and pressed return, waited a second, and did it again. 20 times. Eight embedded. The other 12 just sat there as linked text. I'm on a fast connection and my browser is the latest Safari.
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I found one of the issues maybe. If you copy the URL not from the address bar of the video or share window (for example I copied this from my post above) it adds a space after the URL. Even if you correct it, it is not embedding. So why is it adding a space? A paste it supposed to be exact. So if users are getting URLs from posts, emails, or FB, etc. it is adding the space. Seems to be an issue. https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 All those have a space after from the paste, the last one, I corrected, still no go. Seems to be at least one of the issues.
iacas Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 4 minutes ago, chilihead said: https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 That one didn't have a space after it. The last one. Only the third one has a space after it from what I can tell. Edit: I don't know, you edited stuff now. So…? Anyway. Embed work beautifully here, from what I can see. They're still batting about .400 on my site, though.
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I know I corrected one on purpose to see if it would embed but it still did not.
Nathan Explosion Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 The question might not be 'why is it adding a space?' but 'why am I copying the space?' I can reproduce what you are doing quite easily....but if I'm more careful with the cursor then I don't copy the paste, and the embed works fine https://youtu.be/CD-E-LDc384 (space included) No space included (either by not copying it, or by removing it before I press return) Log it as a bug - simple reproduction steps: paste url, add a space, press return = no embed.
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I'm not copying the space in fact there is no space to copy in post 5 here at the top. Just check. Copy exact link. Paste. Has a space added. You're looking at the pastes where it was added.
Nathan Explosion Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Ta-da - works fine. There is no space, it doesn't copy a space, it didn't put in a space. But if I copy the url from this post and I'm not precise then it copies a spae.
iacas Posted November 5, 2015 Author Posted November 5, 2015 1 minute ago, chilihead said: I'm not copying the space in fact there is no space to copy in post 5 here at the top. Just check. Copy exact link. Paste. Has a space added. Does not happen here, and this feels slightly OT. On my site, and it sounds like many others, videos don't embed even when the URL is all alone on its own line.
Nathan Explosion Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Guys - if you have issues with this functionality then either raise bugs (if you can easily reproduce an exact issue....like the one I mentioned) or as Charles said:
chilihead Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Yes of course, I have many in there , just trying to figure it out, it's also sporadic for me. Sometimes they parse sometimes not. Like in my first post here. That was just a direct paste from YT. I wish I knew why they were so unpredictable. iacas if you submit a report they can look at the code on your site and maybe figure it out.
wmarcy Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 I have given up trying to embed youtube, I can paste a hundred links and none of them show.
craigf136 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 2 hours ago, jp said: It doesn't work on my site either. I have to do what @iacas has suggested as well to make it work. (copy past the link numerous times and wait and see which one works then delete the other links) I reported this several times but was image related, always told the issue was because it took too long or no response from the url for the image - I reckon both are related to the parsing aspect with the suite not the urls.
Nathan Explosion Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 4 minutes ago, wmarcy said: I have given up trying to embed youtube, I can paste a hundred links and none of them show. And I hit the jackpot on my first attempt on your site. Seriously....raise a ticket - something has to be going on with your environment (not just server, but your client machine too)
craigf136 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 1 minute ago, Nathan Explosion said: And I hit the jackpot on my first attempt on your site. Seriously....raise a ticket - something has to be going on with your environment (not just server, but your client machine too) I think the issue is deeper than his server or client side. Parsing of images and youtube, soundcloud etc (in fact parsing in general) can be very sporadic. You can past one link and it won't parse, past the exact same link below that and it will parse. It's IPS related imo.
Nathan Explosion Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 Just now, craigf136 said: I think the issue is deeper than his server or client side. Parsing of images and youtube, soundcloud etc (in fact parsing in general) can be very sporadic. You can past one link and it won't parse, past the exact same link below that and it will parse. It's IPS related imo. Of course it's IPS related - it's their software But how do you explain it working for me on his site, without any issue, and it doesn't work for him. What is the difference? My point here is - those who are having issues....raise a support ticket so that the issue can be looked in to....we all now how it should work. When it doesn't work, the reason needs to be looked in....and it can then be worked on and hopefully resolved.
craigf136 Posted November 5, 2015 Posted November 5, 2015 This is the bug i reported This post in the bug, shows it in action. In my view it was basically dismissed as not an issue.
iacas Posted November 6, 2015 Author Posted November 6, 2015 2 hours ago, Charles said: All you should have to do is paste the URL in on its own line and press enter. If that's not working please submit a ticket so we can have a look. I've submitted a support ticket.
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