broni Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I guess it can happen to anyone one day.I was deleting some topics today and I marked one too many.Oooops! I deleted one important topic.I wasn't worrying too much because I was counting on going to ModCP and undelete.That how it worked in 3.4 version.Unless I'm missing something there is no such option neither in ModCP or ACP.I can see deleted topic in Mod log but that's about it.I can't do anything else.If I'm correct and there is no such function I'd like to ask why or better yet why it was removed?I believe it's a huge miss.
Rikki Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 As I posted in your other topic, I'll quote myself here:Yeah, you got it spot on. In 3.x, 'soft delete' was really just hide and 'hard delete' was... well, actually delete. Not particularly intuitive. In 4.0, 'hide' is what was previous soft delete - it removes it from view and shows it in the ModCP for review. Delete makes it disappear for good. It's essentially the same functionality, just with more logical naming.
broni Posted July 12, 2015 Author Posted July 12, 2015 That doesn't answer my question."Undelete" option existed in 3.x ModCP.Why was it removed?
Rikki Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 It wasn't - soft delete was renamed 'hide', and you can unhide content from the ModCP still. Same function, different name.
Adriano Faria Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 That doesn't answer my question."Undelete" option existed in 3.x ModCP.Why was it removed?Delete will really delete. You can't recover. To avoid this, you better remove the DELETE permission and leave only HIDE.
jackflash Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 I agree with the change in 4.0. Delete = Delete and Hide=Hide.
Vikestart Posted July 12, 2015 Posted July 12, 2015 But even if Hide = Hide and Delete = Delete, that doesn't rule out a system where "deleted items" are scheduled for deletion in X amount of time, sort of a grace period, with the option to undo the deletion from the ModCP before that.
broni Posted July 12, 2015 Author Posted July 12, 2015 I think it'd be nice to have such feature.Mistakes happen.I've been running IPB board for 11 years and I never deleted anything by mistake before....until yesterday.
Frank P Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 But even if Hide = Hide and Delete = Delete, that doesn't rule out a system where "deleted items" are scheduled for deletion in X amount of time, sort of a grace period, with the option to undo the deletion from the ModCP before that.Like in IPB 3.x you could go to the modcp and restore deleted content. Only here in the modcp could one permanently delete something, but only after the first delete which was not permanent. How do you restore a deleted topic in IPB 4.x?
Management Lindy Posted July 20, 2015 Management Posted July 20, 2015 But even if Hide = Hide and Delete = Delete, that doesn't rule out a system where "deleted items" are scheduled for deletion in X amount of time, sort of a grace period, with the option to undo the deletion from the ModCP before that.So, make an internal policy to hide posts - then you can go back and delete them after you're really sure that's your intention, or restore them if it wasn't. Adding this to the software is redundant - I do get mistakes happen (1 time in 11yrs isn't a bad track record though!) but don't click delete if you're not quite sure - use hide.
Vikestart Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 So, make an internal policy to hide posts - then you can go back and delete them after you're really sure that's your intention, or restore them if it wasn't. Adding this to the software is redundant - I do get mistakes happen (1 time in 11yrs isn't a bad track record though!) but don't click delete if you're not quite sure - use hide. True, but that adds a lot of manual maintenance work.With a trash bin system, the deletion would happen automatically after a set period of time, allowing the users enough time to contact the staff and fix any potential mistakes, while avoiding extra loads of work for the Staff.
MADMAN32395 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 True, but that adds a lot of manual maintenance work.With a trash bin system, the deletion would happen automatically after a set period of time, allowing the users enough time to contact the staff and fix any potential mistakes, while avoiding extra loads of work for the Staff.I ended up just turning off delete for all users, and enabling a "trash can" that hides/archives when topics are moved into the "trash can"
Jed Rosenzweig Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Is there a way to search for all hidden posts? If so, I could deal with @MADMAN32395's solution above but if not, maintenance feels like it would become a snipe hunt as per @Vikestart's post.
Ralf Herrmann Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Is there a way to search for all hidden posts? The ModCP has a nice overview of hidden posts, combined or broken down to every section.
MADMAN32395 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Is there a way to search for all hidden posts? If so, I could deal with @MADMAN32395's solution above but if not, maintenance feels like it would become a snipe hunt as per @Vikestart's post.IIRC, if the user has permission to see hidden posts, you should be able to search, along with @Ralf Herrmann's comment as well the MCP has a good overlay of it as well.
broni Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 The ModCP has a nice overview of hidden posts, combined or broken down to every section. As for "combined" I don't think so.If you go to ModCP and then "All content" there are no options there.You can see all hidden stuff but that's about it.To delete anything you have to go section by section.Lot of work.
Ralf Herrmann Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 If you go to ModCP and then "All content" there are no options there.You can see all hidden stuff but that's about it.“See all stuff” perfectly equals the word “overview” I used, doesn’t it?
chilihead Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 You can't perform actions in the overview, I believe is what he means. You have to click into sections.
broni Posted July 20, 2015 Author Posted July 20, 2015 True but we're talking here about using "hide" function in lieu of "delete" which means you eventually want to go to ModCP and delete that stuff.It's only possible by going manually through all single section.Lot of work as I said.If there was "select/delete" function under "All content" it'd work no problem but there is no such option.
chilihead Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 That would be a nice addition. I see why it is not possible, because there are actions such as merge etc. that are impossible app to app. Perhaps only show applicable actions.Clicking into the app is not that big of a deal though.
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