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I'm fine with paid modifications. I'm just glad you can filter them out, because some of the paid mods can be tempting *cough*communityseo*cough* :P



Check out the price. It'll stop being tempting pretty fast.
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Can someone give me a link to the paid download page? I didn't find where is it on the resource site. Does it a use of Nexus bill?

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It is not IPS charging, it is the modification creator. If they feel they want to charge for their hard work, they can now do so with the new system. It does not mean there will be no free modifications.



In any case, IPS is not making you pay anymore money. You would be paying for additional third-party tools/mods/plugins. Paid modifications always existed, now there is just a simple way to find free and paid mods in one location.



I agree with this. IMO, resources include all useful resources, paied and free. I want to find them all in one place.
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Can someone give me a link to the paid download page? I didn't find where is it on the resource site. Does it a use of Nexus bill?



Nope, the paid resources are simply a link to the authors site/download system where you can purchase it from - we provide a link to their site, we don't handle any of the sales/payment of the resources ourselves :)
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The MY resource, was a typo, I guess it was referring to MY access...

And the idea of paid resources is being abused by modification authors... they are posting all there modifications there.... every last one....

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I already had all of those mods created and available for sale on my own site. When IPS made it so I could publish them here, I did. Did you want me to publish one, wait until several other people had published a few, publish one more, etc.? How is putting all my existing products there 'abusing the system'?

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I already had all of those mods created and available for sale on my own site. When IPS made it so I could publish them here, I did. Did you want me to publish one, wait until several other people had published a few, publish one more, etc.? How is putting all my existing products there 'abusing the system'?



Yes, actually that would have been great, because all your mods are hiding other people's "paid work".
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Zachary you really need to calm down and look at this from another perspective, we only started allowing paid modifications last thursday, thats 8 days. Michael did not write these modifications in 8 days, this is Michaels work from ages ago, months, even years, so when we said we would allow paid modifications, of course there is going to be a big increase, but like others said, if you don't like it, you can filter them out.

And I wouldn't say its hiding others work, what if I go and submit 20 modifications now, that would be hiding Michaels work. Really if you don't like it, don't use it, its not going to change because of one person.

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its not going to change because of one person.



dammit my moms been telling me for yrs "one person can change the world".

I agree though if you don't like just go turn it off. Michael stop spamming the mods area :P. Although if we filter out all your paid mods you'll still be everywhere with your unpaid mods :P. There's just no winning.
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Definition of 'resource' from Princeton via Google:

- available source of wealth; a new or reserve supply that can be drawn upon when needed
- a source of aid or support that may be drawn upon when needed; "the local library is a valuable resource"

I have written Princeton that they have omitted the words 'and free' after 'when needed'.

The correction is pending. :lol:

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although it might be contrary to my personal interest I don't know whether including paid modifications on ips resources is a good move.

On one end it's usefull that both payed and free modifications are listed in one place, but on the other end people pay their yearly subscription to be able to access support and the download system, so they might not be pleased if they have to pay extra for a modification listed they want.

So to be honest I don't know whether it's a good move, time will tell I guess, for us modders who charge for modifications it's an interesting option for additional exposure, for people paying to be able to access the download system it might be not.

However knowing IPS flexibility if the people's majority opinion is against listing paid modifications they will adjust accordingly, and in fact by being able to hide paid listings they already kinda did...

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I enjoy seeing this, the reason because its one centralized place for all resources. No need to scour the internet to find a mod when I can find everything here :). Zachary not everything is going to be done for you and you need to accept that fact.

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although it might be contrary to my personal interest I don't know whether including paid modifications on ips resources is a good move.



On one end it's usefull that both payed and free modifications are listed in one place, but on the other end people pay their yearly subscription to be able to access support and the download system, so they might not be pleased if they have to pay extra for a modification listed they want.



That's the argument I don't get. They might not be pleased to see a mod that costs money? So, in essence, a user would rather just not know that the mod exists at all? Because that mod is going to cost money regardless of whether it's listed or not..
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I don't write paid mods. For that matter, I don't even write mods. Best I've done so far is duplicate, then modify, the Paypal standard gateway to work with Paypal's Sandbox and Beta Sandbox sites, as seperate uniquely-named gateways. If I get the motivation (and time), I'll write up the process and publish it to the Resources site.

Anyway.. I have yet to see a paid mod that I would buy, but I *DO* want to see what's available.

Offering paid mods certainly isn't going to kill off unpaid ones. And you can always filter out the ones you don't want to see.

Adding paid mods was a good move, Brandon, despite a few naysayers.

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Please also note that this is the first phase of the 'marketplace', we will be looking to expand upon it in the future, and if you have any suggestions, they are more than welcome ;)

As a side note, shouldn't this topic be moved to the main company feedback forum, its not really anything about IP.Board.

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Its a good move to include paid modifications! I honestly prefer paid modifications instead of free ones...purely as they are better supported...I know there are free mods which are well supported...but chances of having support increases for paid mods...for a fairly large forum...support is a primary concern. I don't want to be struck with a free mod with a chance of support but would rather pay for something with a guaranteed support. Anyways...I love free mods too...but they usually don't have great support :)

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That's the argument I don't get. They might not be pleased to see a mod that costs money? So, in essence, a user would rather just not know that the mod exists at all? Because that mod is going to cost money regardless of whether it's listed or not..



good point, it's a good thing to have a one place listing for free and paid mods, a ips user might be indeed pleased to see a mod listed on ipsresources, as he then knows that the mod he wants exists even if he has to pay for it.

I have a few question about the paid listings though:
- the price listed should be in US Dollar I suppose?
- how is invoicing handled on these paid listings? Or is it possible to forward to your own order page?
- there's a mention about guidelines in the paid file extra information. Where can these guidelines be found?
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Even though the majority of the paid modifications added to the system already are in US dollars, there is no currency, the authors are manually putting the $ into the data field, there is no rule saying it has to be dollars, you can put it in

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good point, it's a good thing to have a one place listing for free and paid mods, a ips user might be indeed pleased to see a mod listed on ipsresources, as he then knows that the mod he wants exists even if he has to pay for it.



I have a few question about the paid listings though:


- the price listed should be in US Dollar I suppose?


- how is invoicing handled on these paid listings? Or is it possible to forward to your own order page?


- there's a mention about guidelines in the paid file extra information. Where can these guidelines be found?



Alex explained most of this, but to directly answer your questions

1) There is no rule that the price has to be in US Dollars. Might be good to keep it in US Dollars since the bulk of our customers are from the US (thus they will understand the price better than if you listed in euros or pounds), but there's no rule saying you need to.

2) When you submit a paid listing, you also include a link to where the user is sent to. The user does NOT download the file from the resource site. At the point they wish to "continue" after looking at the listing page, when they click the typical download button they are redirected to the link you supply. Thus you should include a link to your payment page or whatever splash page you would like the user to arrive on. More details are in the guidelines (below).

3) http://resources.invisionpower.com/index.p...guidelines.html
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I think it's a great idea to allow paid modifications, i'm sure you will find a lot of new IPS customers who would feel more comfortable seeing paid listings on an IPS resource site than searching google to find mods, at least this way users will know that if they are listed on IPS resource the then its from a legit license holder, and not someone who has a nulled board and doing it for fun, (Not saying anyone who is not a legit license holder is evil).

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