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Considered and decided against it faster than a quantum computer could have managed it.

But the percentage of clients that used the marketplace is very high, or the majority don't have a single plugin/app installed?

Wow... Things went to the wrong side. It will be too bad if Ips loses Adriano.
I have more installed, but i basically only use 2 plugins.
One from Zayed, the External Link Rich Embed. I think a thing like this plugin should've come with the base suit, but it doesn't. Hope this one doesn't belong to the list of the 80% of plugins that will die because of framework limitations.
And the other one is from Nathan, oembedServices Manager, so we can oembed services that do not come with IPS. Another one i think it should come with the base suit, but it doesn't come.
I only really need those 2 plugins, so i think i'm more or less safe. Let's see what the future brings.

I was just curious to know if most people just use the base IPS with the official apps and don't care about using third party apps/plugins.
That is indeed an advantage. And third party developers will also save some trouble because there is less risk of new IPS version breaking their apps.
If it's something that needed to be done, i guess we will all survive like it happened in the past with other major changes.

I was just curious to know if most people just use the base IPS with the official apps and don't care about using third party apps/plugins.
That is indeed an advantage. And third party developers will also save some trouble because there is less risk of new IPS version breaking their apps.
If it's something that needed to be done, i guess we will all survive like it happened in the past with other major changes.

I was just curious to know if most people just use the base IPS with the official apps and don't care about using third party apps/plugins.
That is indeed an advantage. And third party developers will also save some trouble because there is less risk of new IPS version breaking their apps.
If it's something that needed to be done, i guess we will all survive like it happened in the past with other major changes.

I was just curious to know if most people just use the base IPS with the official apps and don't care about using third party apps/plugins.
That is indeed an advantage. And third party developers will also save some trouble because there is less risk of new IPS version breaking their apps.
If it's something that needed to be done, i guess we will all survive like it happened in the past with other major changes.

So regarding this assumed 80% of plugins being lost, the main questions I have are:
Can similar results (i.e. a client wants X added/enhanced to any part of the suite) be achieved with whatever IPS is developing for v5?  Maybe in a different way, but the same end result/solution for a client? If so, will the solutions be Marketplace sellable assets for developers? If not, how does IPS plan on addressing this clear gap in providing functionality to clients that Marketplace devs previously filled in v4? I can't imagine IPS removing the ability for devs to enhance the IPS suite in ways that IPS isn't willing to invest in doing themselves.  That would be detrimental to all parties involved.  And history (per the number of Marketplace assets) shows there are A LOT of assets/resources clients want and use that aren't part of the suite.

It does need to be noted, this is very much a case where someone says "someone may have" and by the time it hits the end the believe is the person did, and admitted it. The 80% there was not from invision, and also not referring to all marketplace plugins. It was from a plugin author relating to their own plugins. It was also an assumption without yet having all the information to make the statement those 80% are not possible. (As we havent shown everything yet, and also gathering feedback on some items).

Wow... Things went to the wrong side. It will be too bad if Ips loses Adriano.
I have more installed, but i basically only use 2 plugins.
One from Zayed, the External Link Rich Embed. I think a thing like this plugin should've come with the base suit, but it doesn't. Hope this one doesn't belong to the list of the 80% of plugins that will die because of framework limitations.
And the other one is from Nathan, oembedServices Manager, so we can oembed services that do not come with IPS. Another one i think it should come with the base suit, but it doesn't come.
I only really need those 2 plugins, so i think i'm more or less safe. Let's see what the future brings.

No issues there. He won't be able to upgrade 2/3 of them. Lots of time saved! 😂
 
Seriously, I have several apps and plugins extending classes in the /system folder. That means they're all dead for v5. So far, I don't like the direction v5 is taking at all. No matter what awesome tools you may have in place, being unable to overload (almost) all classes like before is a huge issue.
 
Well, that's it for me for now. I won't say anything further until there is more info about those "awesome tools" you mentioned. But I don't have much hope for them.

Maybe. Someone say yes, other no. I have plenty private custom mods (hooks) and I can take responsible and all consequences. Now it won't be possible.
~ 85-90% I think.
I prefer to wait for more dev blog entries before I'll be more critical, but I feel close to certainty that more than 80% of my projects will not be possible on v5.
 
Nope, disagree. Hooks are powerfull.