Adriano Faria

They will be there for a couple of years for those who won’t jump in V5 right away.
File edits will be back with resources being sold in dev’s board. And for those who use marketplace and can’t use FTP, will get limited resources.
But there’s no doubt it will be the end of this marketplace and I truly believe that’s what IPS is after for a while now.
I haven’t decided yet if I will keep developing for IPS, as I told somewhere else… and I must confess the answer its getting clear at every blog entry. 
Anyway, if I remain, certainly will reduce from 300 to 50 maximum, due to… framework limitations. 😂

Matt, could you clarify exactly what you mean with “less”. As far as we can see, there won’t be ways to use hooks anymore. Is that right? I don’t see the Hooks tab in dev center.
What you’re calling listeners that is fired in specific events can’t be called hooks at all, so I guess that’s the reason for such confusion. At least to me. 
Once and for all, will we be able to hook in class?
Thank you.

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.

So the answer is no as there is no HOOKS tab anymore. So resources from now on will extend only official apps that I have in my license. If the user has another 3rd-party resource, it won’t work anymore because I don’t have all the marketplace resources out there to add listeners since it checks for the class. 
Great improvement. 

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.

So the answer is no as there is no HOOKS tab anymore. So resources from now on will extend only official apps that I have in my license. If the user has another 3rd-party resource, it won’t work anymore because I don’t have all the marketplace resources out there to add listeners since it checks for the class. 
Great improvement. 

I'm always keen to get information out as soon as we have it fixed on our end. There are pros and cons but the earlier the feedback, the more chance we have at addressing it and making sure we've not missed any angles. Give it a few months and the v5 codebase will be much stabler and we'll be more reluctant to make big changes.
Some of the tools we're still actively working on, and stuff like theme tools are only about 80% complete, so there may be some gaps between blogs but we'll post them as soon as we have them ready.
Not exactly, it's more like the JS event system, you can listen in on events and execute your code when those events are triggered.

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.

So the answer is no as there is no HOOKS tab anymore. So resources from now on will extend only official apps that I have in my license. If the user has another 3rd-party resource, it won’t work anymore because I don’t have all the marketplace resources out there to add listeners since it checks for the class. 
Great improvement. 

I was silent so far, hoping for some revolutionary idea, but I have to agree with Adriano: with these changes modding is dead.
 
Listeners are basically the old Library hooks from 3.x, and we can no longer overload any other methods (unlike before). I won't be able to update 85%+ of my modifications with this system.
 
@Matt As an example, I see no way to update these plugins for 5.x:
 
 
Unless I'm missing something, or you have more coming to still allow them.

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.

As always, we are listening. We have a lot to announce yet. 

That will be dealt with in UIExtensions. We're wrapping some things up on those before the blog entry, but it's coming.
We will be removing the block on base classes and you'll be able to add listeners to \IPS\Content\Item (or Comment or Review).

We are discussing your feedback Adriano.