Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 This really needs to be improved. In previous versions if someone added an attached image into their post then when you quoted it the attached image would not display, instead the attachment file name would show up. Now in 3.4 it looks like attachments are just getting stripped out of the quote completely. Why? I think that if someone has permission to download an attachment then they should be able to repost that attachment in a quote as well. It's very disruptive in regular threads. And if IPS is actually planning to improve attachment handling and allow attachments in the fast reply in 4.0 or even inline image uploading via ckeditor or even disallowing remote images and forcing all posted images to be uploaded to the forum's server first via ckeditor then this behavior really isn't going to work out anymore. I don't even think there needs to be a setting for this. I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want an attached image to display in a quote especially if the quoter has permission to download that image anyway. They shouldn't have to download and reupload just to get the image to display. I guess overall I just think attachments are handled in an overly secure manner. I can understand why this is the case for something like attached pdfs, but images really doesn't need to be like this. I hope though that you just do inline image uploading via ckeditor and just disregard image attachments completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigPaws Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Lol, we just cross posted. I was saying in my other topic that the "Image" button on the toolbar (the one further right from bold, italic, underline, etc.) should allow users to upload an image - rather than prompt them just for a URL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Lol, we just cross posted. I was saying in my other topic that the "Image" button on the toolbar (the one further right from bold, italic, underline, etc.) should allow users to upload an image - rather than prompt them just for a URL. The fact that we came up with the same thread idea at exactly the same time means that it's a good idea right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcher Technologies Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 This really needs to be improved. In previous versions if someone added an attached image into their post then when you quoted it the attached image would not display, instead the attachment file name would show up. Now in 3.4 it looks like attachments are just getting stripped out of the quote completely. Why? I think that if someone has permission to download an attachment then they should be able to repost that attachment in a quote as well. It's very disruptive in regular threads. And if IPS is actually planning to improve attachment handling and allow attachments in the fast reply in 4.0 or even inline image uploading via ckeditor or even disallowing remote images and forcing all posted images to be uploaded to the forum's server first via ckeditor then this behavior really isn't going to work out anymore. I don't even think there needs to be a setting for this. I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't want an attached image to display in a quote especially if the quoter has permission to download that image anyway. They shouldn't have to download and reupload just to get the image to display. I guess overall I just think attachments are handled in an overly secure manner. I can understand why this is the case for something like attached pdfs, but images really doesn't need to be like this. I hope though that you just do inline image uploading via ckeditor and just disregard image attachments completely. and a post with 20 or so images should be holding them in quotes *why*? You do realize how inane that would get, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 and a post with 20 or so images should be holding them in quotes *why*? You do realize how inane that would get, right? That would never happen because the default number of images per post that IPB allows is 10. :smile: If you decide to allow more than that then that's on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcher Technologies Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 That would never happen because the default number of images per post that IPB allows is 10. :smile: If you decide to allow more than that then that's on you. ......semantics. Honestly? You would have a post like this hold all images when quoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 ......semantics. Honestly? You would have a post like this hold all images when quoted? I don't have a problem with it. It never happens anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalendarOfUpdates Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I don't have a problem with it. It never happens anyway. On your site it may not. Happens often on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 On your site it may not. Happens often on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalendarOfUpdates Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Not real sure why you are showing me that. I have already seen the images in the post I am quoting, Why should I re-post them again if I and everyone else reading the thread have already seen them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I suppose the same argument can be used for text as well. Everyone has already seen your post after all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalendarOfUpdates Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I suppose the same argument can be used for text as well. Everyone has already seen your post after all... I guess you could since the quote box in linking back to my post so we all know your replying directly to that post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcher Technologies Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I don't have a problem with it. It never happens anyway. Really? Never say never. :) It did, in the post you quote, and i have seen many sites where this would not only occur, but the behavior you appear to seek would be beyond annoying. At very minimum, a setting is required, and should default off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Really? Never say never. :smile: It did, in the post you quote, and i have seen many sites where this would not only occur, but the behavior you appear to seek would be beyond annoying. At very minimum, a setting is required, and should default off. Semantics. It happens so infrequently that it really isn't as big as a nuisance as you're painting it out as. You just attached 10 images in a post. How often have you done that before in a regular topic? I suppose a setting isn't entirely out of the question. However, I think the better alternative to all of this is removing image attachments entirely and replacing it with inline image uploading via ckeditor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcher Technologies Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 However, I think the better alternative to all of this is removing image attachments entirely and replacing it with inline image uploading via ckeditor. Still Semantics, *but*... No, just *No*. CKE defaults would allow only images, and any type of image of any size to be uploaded, 0 control. http://community.invisionpower.com/resources/guides.html/_/advanced-and-developers/application/application-extension-attachments-r54 Integration of the attachments class INTO the cke, would preserve space allowances, permissions, and such. What you suggest would basically allow free user reign with 0 admin control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimi Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Still Semantics, *but*... No, just *No*. CKE defaults would allow *any* file to be uploaded, 0 control. http://community.invisionpower.com/resources/guides.html/_/advanced-and-developers/application/application-extension-attachments-r54 Integration of the attachments class INTO the cke, would preserve space allowances, permissions, and such. Semantics. Naturally I would expect that IPS would restrict to it to images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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