Management Charles Posted September 20, 2006 Management Share Posted September 20, 2006 We're just doing this very first public release encoded so we can control it better. The very last thing we want is a beta floating around that could possibly (though we hope not!) be filled with brand-new-out-of-the-box issues.Once we are happy it appears stable then we'll release a second round that is not encoded. Like MetalFrog pointed out - we willl announce the release schedule then. I would estimate a release schedule could be posted this time next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted September 20, 2006 Management Share Posted September 20, 2006 Since IPS is a company that is on the internet, they would close "virtual" doors, ie the company would close. Yes, I know they have an office, but they would also have to close their "virtual" office, no?I was making an internet joke (w00t)Where will we work from? (don't ask - IPS joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Phantom Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Where will we work from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry - AKA Dumbledore Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 One question. Will we be able to update skins with the zend version or wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted September 20, 2006 Management Share Posted September 20, 2006 One question. Will we be able to update skins with the zend version or wait?You will be able to do skins but any changes probably won't carry over so don't do anything too important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.U. Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I'm not worry about it being encoded. Good chance I may just use it to do some extreme stuff to see if it can handle it as well as test out my custom made cms on it to see what I have to do to get things work for it, then once the RC versions come out I can then go into doing more of my custom code work as well as skinning. I know I'll have tot totally made a new skin set adn then copy my skins into them as porting them I think will end up being to much of a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistra Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yes but what if someone has used the ZEND encoaded board as their live board? and the time runs out for that encoded tiem of peirod and the new release hasn't been posted. customers will be running a non existent board till they releast a stable source beta. I argee with Peter on this one. IPB 2.0.0 Was still under the free flag along with IPB 2.0 Final. before matt desided to go corpate with the script. I can agree that a weeks time will be fine that will give you and your site staff some time to get use to running it as a test board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted September 20, 2006 Management Share Posted September 20, 2006 You really wouldn't want to use a first public beta on a live board that is just asking for trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Lord Katsuhito - if they do that's THEIR OWN FAULT as the news post clearly states not to use it on a live board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistra Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Then how are we supose to test it in a live enverment if we don't use it as a live board? its like looking for support for a small group of people then a community of 50,000 members then why encode it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted September 20, 2006 Management Share Posted September 20, 2006 Then how are we supose to test it in a live enverment if we don't use it as a live board? its like looking for support for a small group of people then a community of 50,000 members then why encode itYou're not supposed to :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistra Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 OK you want the public to test it with encodide but you don't want them to? sounds kinda weird I can understand its a way to get your staff members use to the new release of the script. So how are we supose to test it select a few members from our forum to register to the board and test tes tes? you can do that on a fully sourced out board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted September 20, 2006 Management Share Posted September 20, 2006 Well if you realllllllllllllly want to put an initial public beta on your live board you can certainly do that but I really wouldn't suggest it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistra Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I wasn't planning on doing that but is there going to be any betas release FULL SORUCED meaning can we edit files for our own hacks sites skins, what have you thats why I think everyone is so pissed they don't understand that The first Beta ONLY will be encoded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry - AKA Dumbledore Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 The first beta is to allow hundreds of owners to test the code and find the bugs, even with only one user. More bugs will be found and fixed. This will bring the code to a stable level. Then IPB can look to releasing a production version. This also allows modders to plan their upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistra Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I am sure the first Privet Beta testers got a full scrpted beta test of 2.2 I think thats why everyone is so hot. I can understand having an encoded beta 1 for testing to see if it works on all servers and what not. Beta 2 throug RC3 Shoulg get the mod writers enough time to code their hacks with small fixes to the release every so often so when Final is released they can have a stable hack for the boards ready to go. But I remember back in the day IPB 2.0 beta and release canidate you had different templates. then the final. you had a different Admin CP setup then final. 2.0 was when you started to work hard on the gallery and blog systems of IPB. SI thats understandible Below is a char of how this will work if I am correct? Beta 1 (Encoded)Beta 2 (not encoded)Beta 3 (not encoded)RC1 (not encoded)RC2 (not encoded)RC3 (not encoded)Final (not encoded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Κeith Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I wasn't planning on doing that but is there going to be any betas release FULL SORUCED meaning can we edit files for our own hacks sites skins, what have you thats why I think everyone is so pissed they don't understand that The first Beta ONLY will be encoded.:lol:You weren't planning on it... why ask all the questions about if you do then? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinistra Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 because there are stupid people out in the world today just clearing up stuff :P Im smart enough to run a Beta in its own folder. I do the same thing for scuff I code. I don't make it live till I know all the bugs have been worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.U. Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Yeah I wouldn't be using a beta on a live baord at least not over your board. I would which I'm thinking of doing is installing the beta's on another domain of mine and then chooing say 10 of my members to come over and mess with it. Kind of like my own private beta testing. Hell thats a good idea as it help me work out the bugs faster.That would be legal to do right? As long as the board would be locked to members only no one can sign up and once the full stable version comes out it goes down right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Ryan Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I see no problem with your above plan, I and planned to do that myself. You make sure people can't use it and stuff, and let a select group of members play around with it and see what it does.Or maybe leave it up as a preview so people can just look and see what the new version looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam A Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Of course the final release will be unrestricted. We aren't paying for time-encoded software, save a few beta releases here and there. And if I remember back to the 2.1.x beta days, the code changed quite a bit between Beta 2 and RC1.That's what I said. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grant Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Wow... It isn't hard to understand, but I will break it down for the people who still don't get it.IPS is encoding the first Beta so it can be properly controlled. The last time they released a public Beta, users immediately upgraded their boards, and thus, made it extremely difficult for IPS to support; considering that the they were still fixing bugs. So, by releasing the beta encoded, they can force those who want to upgrade their boards with the Beta to wait for the more stable releases.I hope that clears it up a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Last time we had a beta we asked that people did not use it to upgrade their boards. Even big red bold letters were used, but people still did it. It's been a while, but I think when we released the first beta for 2.1 the upgrade script was not finished so it wasn't included.... Despite the warnings and red letters people tried to upgrade their boards with the installer script.... (only to find their board in bad bad shape...)Like it has already been said... It's so the release can be controlled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boult Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Ok.. Public betas and RC's are for you to play with it but not to use it as production as in "live" just play with it to get feel of it before the final is out then switch over to final 2.2. That's the purpose of Beta in Forum world.Different from Software world. where you want to use beta software with bleeding edge and expect a bumpy road but usable in everyday life. So, don't let people sign up on public beta boards. It is for you, holder of license, to play with and learn so you can get your handles on it before it goes final to make transition easy. like for example install public beta on localhost and play with it. instead of installing it over your previous. encoded or not. TILL Final Release... you can install that over the last stable releases. It is also good idea to tweak and mod over several releases before Final but don't use it in public setting. just to yourself then when Final comes out you can look at your test version to copy from ie: modding code as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management Charles Posted September 20, 2006 Management Share Posted September 20, 2006 In the end it won't really matter. We hope the first public beta will be very short.As you can probably tell from the lack of major issues - we have been testing this internally for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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