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4/6 of mine I paid someone on here to make, as they were specific requests. My forum wouldn’t be all what it is without a few of them at least as it adds something different

Not every person has applications/plugins associated with the Marketplace. Many people downloaded the resource in xml/tar format and just installed it.
There are definitely more installations. IMHO.

I think it's because you are not interested in developing the market. I see a trend to close the community in the future in the cloud with paying customers, they are more profitable. IMHO. One of the advantages of IPS was its good extensibility and variety of applications and extensions.
 
 
 

But the percentage of clients that used the marketplace is very high, or the majority don't have a single plugin/app installed?

Wow... Things went to the wrong side. It will be too bad if Ips loses Adriano.
I have more installed, but i basically only use 2 plugins.
One from Zayed, the External Link Rich Embed. I think a thing like this plugin should've come with the base suit, but it doesn't. Hope this one doesn't belong to the list of the 80% of plugins that will die because of framework limitations.
And the other one is from Nathan, oembedServices Manager, so we can oembed services that do not come with IPS. Another one i think it should come with the base suit, but it doesn't come.
I only really need those 2 plugins, so i think i'm more or less safe. Let's see what the future brings.

He will stare at me without blinking until I add in new tools. He can be quite scary.

I'm just curious, @Daniel F as far I remember you wrote that your SEO app will be ported into v5. But how? I can count all hooks used by this app and there are ~ 15 file hooks. Many of them are hooked into "not allowed by v5" areas. So how? 🙂

Me too. Anything we say won't have any effect. As you said yesterday, I hoped we would be heard before it started.
Hoping the UIExtension will be a game-changer. 👍

No issues there. He won't be able to upgrade 2/3 of them. Lots of time saved! 😂
 
Seriously, I have several apps and plugins extending classes in the /system folder. That means they're all dead for v5. So far, I don't like the direction v5 is taking at all. No matter what awesome tools you may have in place, being unable to overload (almost) all classes like before is a huge issue.
 
Well, that's it for me for now. I won't say anything further until there is more info about those "awesome tools" you mentioned. But I don't have much hope for them.

They will be there for a couple of years for those who won’t jump in V5 right away.
File edits will be back with resources being sold in dev’s board. And for those who use marketplace and can’t use FTP, will get limited resources.
But there’s no doubt it will be the end of this marketplace and I truly believe that’s what IPS is after for a while now.
I haven’t decided yet if I will keep developing for IPS, as I told somewhere else… and I must confess the answer its getting clear at every blog entry. 
Anyway, if I remain, certainly will reduce from 300 to 50 maximum, due to… framework limitations. 😂

Will stick with IPS4, maybe until IPS version 6 🙃🤦‍♂️

To log the download, I have an hook on \IPS\File. I see no way to access it with Listeners?
Guess I can only wait and see what comes next for now... 🙄

The second plugin is something that should be included by default really, but, leaving that aside, my main issue is the first one I linked. I have plenty of similar (custom) modifications. That's the biggest problem, and your reply doesn't help at all, unfortunately. 😔

I was silent so far, hoping for some revolutionary idea, but I have to agree with Adriano: with these changes modding is dead.
 
Listeners are basically the old Library hooks from 3.x, and we can no longer overload any other methods (unlike before). I won't be able to update 85%+ of my modifications with this system.
 
@Matt As an example, I see no way to update these plugins for 5.x:
 
 
Unless I'm missing something, or you have more coming to still allow them.

Thank you. 👏👍
Still, remove the ability to hook is a huge step back and will make marketplace even worse and smaller but I guess that’s the point after all. A massive number of resources are dead.
We’re basically back to IP.Board 2 (file edits will be required for custom jobs as we can’t hook) and IP.Board 3 (back to hook points era). 
Anyway, just my feedback. Not trying to annoy anyone; just my honest feedback.
Tks.