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Daniel F Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Do you mean that while the background tasks are running, your page is slow, or that the background tasks have finished after the upgrade/ conversion and that your page is still slow?
SJ77 Posted January 1, 2016 Author Posted January 1, 2016 both really but when background tasks are running everything is extra slow. Speed is a real issue I've been having with IPB I realize that all these neat features come at a cost, so I don't even know if there is a solution but it's something to be mindful of at the least.
Management Lindy Posted January 3, 2016 Management Posted January 3, 2016 Moved this to server assistance so we can better assist. Your site is most definitely loading very slowly. Could you please let us know the specs of your server? Is this a VPS? What's the base CPU and memory? Are you able to post server load information? What version of PHP/MySQL are you using? Are you using innodb? Mind posting your my.cnf file and have you run something like mysqltuner? IPS4 is indeed more demanding and performance is an ongoing task with constant improvement, but that level of performance impact is typically server-side.
SJ77 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Posted January 3, 2016 12 hours ago, Lindy said: Moved this to server assistance so we can better assist. Your site is most definitely loading very slowly. Could you please let us know the specs of your server? Is this a VPS? What's the base CPU and memory? Are you able to post server load information? What version of PHP/MySQL are you using? Are you using innodb? Mind posting your my.cnf file and have you run something like mysqltuner? IPS4 is indeed more demanding and performance is an ongoing task with constant improvement, but that level of performance impact is typically server-side. Lindy it's very slow. I have specs in screen shot below. It is VPS. I know there are some innodb and some myISAM tables. mysql 5.5.37-log PHP5.4.34-1~dotdeb.1 I don't know about the other stuff. If you could help or get someone to help that would be awesome. I am getting a ton of complaints about slowness.
Rhett Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 Have you thought about using our community in the cloud hosting? From the info you have provided, your VPS is severely limited on resources available, since the background tasks are using a good amount of resources to rebuild the needed items, it's not leaving much for the site to function normally. You have a few options perhaps, one you can disable site access until this rebuild is completed, you can increase your resources available on your vps plan with your provider, or perhaps move to our community in the cloud packages where you won't have these resource restrictions. How far along is the rebuild process now?
SJ77 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Posted January 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rhett said: Have you thought about using our community in the cloud hosting? From the info you have provided, your VPS is severely limited on resources available, since the background tasks are using a good amount of resources to rebuild the needed items, it's not leaving much for the site to function normally. You have a few options perhaps, one you can disable site access until this rebuild is completed, you can increase your resources available on your vps plan with your provider, or perhaps move to our community in the cloud packages where you won't have these resource restrictions. How far along is the rebuild process now? I think what I posted above was with background tasks completed. I don't see them pending anymore in the dashboard of the ACP Oh and I would love the community in the cloud option but even your most expensive plan has limited resources. 100GB storage? I already have almost 300GB in images. 750 online? I have 700 + online right now... ugh.
Rhett Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 If you are running that large of site on a VPS with limited resources, then I would say that is your issue, I would contact your hosting provider to review your resources available and if you are hitting their restrictions, and if they have a higher plan available. Based on your info, you have well outgrown your VPS however.
SJ77 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Posted January 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, Rhett said: If you are running that large of site on a VPS with limited resources, then I would say that is your issue, I would contact your hosting provider to review your resources available and if you are hitting their restrictions, and if they have a higher plan available. Based on your info, you have well outgrown your VPS however. I am sorry, I am pretty good with the technology, php, mysql etc but I haven't done much system admin work. Can you help me out and please explain why specifically you feel I have outgrown the current system? Memory?
IveLeft... Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 IPB services whilst excellent are not cheap for what you need Take a look at a dedicated server running nginx and memcache (among other things) and ssd hdd's Your Loads really have outgrown a VPS and its your Hardware thats the issue not the IPB forums software
SJ77 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Posted January 3, 2016 1 minute ago, Cloud 9 said: IPB services whilst excellent are not cheap for what you need Take a look at a dedicated server running nginx and memcache (among other things) and ssd hdd's Your Loads really have outgrown a VPS and its your Hardware thats the issue not the IPB forums software well it's almost a dedicated server. The only other site on the server is my other IPB site.
IveLeft... Posted January 3, 2016 Posted January 3, 2016 Its a VPS - If your correct in what you stated - There is a big difference between running on a dedicated server and a VPS
SJ77 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Posted January 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, Cloud 9 said: Its a VPS - If your correct in what you stated - There is a big difference between running on a dedicated server and a VPS Any idea what kind of specs I would need in order to get my server load down to something reasonable?
SJ77 Posted January 3, 2016 Author Posted January 3, 2016 actually vmstat doesn't look too bad, So I don't get what the issue is. procs -----------memory---------- ---swap-- -----io---- -system-- ----cpu---- r b swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id wa 3 3 48628 3126776 0 3913132 0 0 2 1 0 0 2 0 16 82 3 2 48628 3094436 0 3939132 0 0 16 1466 0 4193 24 3 68 5 0 1 48628 2993752 0 4030932 0 0 21 9 0 1398 7 1 88 3 0 2 48628 3135428 0 3913600 0 0 0 162 0 3464 16 4 72 8 12 1 48628 3052028 0 3913856 0 0 34 1122 0 7997 37 9 51 3 3 1 48628 3110040 0 3914000 0 0 6 429 0 7737 39 9 49 3 3 2 48628 3146092 0 3914584 0 0 90 167 0 4987 34 6 59 2 6 0 48628 3108220 0 3914692 0 0 0 1452 0 4310 28 4 62 5 2 1 48628 3125272 0 3915072 0 0 61 32 0 3684 26 3 68 3 6 0 48628 3071724 0 3916132 0 0 199 1105 0 3678 28 2 66 3
Tracy Perry Posted January 4, 2016 Posted January 4, 2016 Actually you are right in that your VPS stats are comparable to some dedicated servers - but, the big difference is that with dedicated iron, you are getting ALL the resources. A misbehaving client on your VPS hosting server (another VPS) can, depending on the technology being used to provide the VPS containers, impact your performance levels also. Even though a lot of people here seem to pooh-pooh them, I'm having really good luck with a SYS (SoYouStart E3-SAT) for my use. No matter what you may "hear", if you do your own mail server, if you configure your MTA correctly you generally will not have any issues with being blocked. None of the 16 IP's that I are on a blacklist that is in common use. I'm paying about $60 a month for it (USD) and I know numerous others that are having the same results. BTW, unless you specifically need it - I'd seriously look at upgrading your PHP version to at least the 5.5 line - preferably 5.6 line.
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