aSimpleIdea Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Hello! I was curious about the editor in ips 4.0. Will you still be using ckeditor? Will it support html5? Will it have a new skin? Have you ever thought about switching to another editor or making your own? If yes, we might give some suggestions about other editors... I found this one: http://imperavi.com/redactor/ It is made with jQuery, they also claim it is 8x faster than ckeditor, supports html 5 and plugins, click-to-edit, drag-and-drop and other stuff. But it only supports ie 8+ (of course every other browser version is supported ). Are you planning to make a post about ips 4 editor? :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sijad Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 sounds good, also there is a topic related with it: edit: take look: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 We will evaluate all options, however CKEditor still seems to be the market leader and most likely editor that we will utilize. HTML5 support has been present in CKEditor since 3.6.1 which was released in June of 2011. :) http://ckeditor.com/blog/CKEditor-3.6.1-Released Most likely our interface for the editor will change based on the new default skin for the 4.0 Suite (no, we are not ready to show screenshots). The skin will be independent of whatever editor we use. We will not be creating our own WYSIWYG most likely. This is a very, very big task, a project unto itself. Projects like CKEditor have multiple developers focusing on JUST this piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aSimpleIdea Posted April 11, 2013 Author Share Posted April 11, 2013 We will evaluate all options, however CKEditor still seems to be the market leader and most likely editor that we will utilize. HTML5 support has been present in CKEditor since 3.6.1 which was released in June of 2011. :smile: http://ckeditor.com/blog/CKEditor-3.6.1-Released Most likely our interface for the editor will change based on the new default skin for the 4.0 Suite (no, we are not ready to show screenshots). The skin will be independent of whatever editor we use. We will not be creating our own WYSIWYG most likely. This is a very, very big task, a project unto itself. Projects like CKEditor have multiple developers focusing on JUST this piece. Thank you for your reply brandon (by the way I've read an interview of yours some years ago, and some things you said on it motivated me to develop IPB apps, thank you! :D ). I expected you weren't ready to show a skin for it, so I didn't ask :D Instead, can you say something about some of its new/changed features? We're very curious! :) For example, a really nice feature would be uploading an attachment on the editor box by drag-and-drop. I know you're going to implement the drag-and-drop feature already, but I don't recall you saying it would be on the editor box or in a separate section (like now) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I can't say much about the editor yet. I can only say that we will not release 4.0 without an editor we are all absolutely happy with and that will serve us well for years to come. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmacleo Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 we will not release 4.0 without an editor whew :) :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJRav3n Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Question, if I wanted to upgrade my editor to the new version of ckeditor and some of its plugins, how easy would that be in file edits? I hope it's possible just wondering before I look into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Question, if I wanted to upgrade my editor to the new version of ckeditor and some of its plugins, how easy would that be in file edits? I hope it's possible just wondering before I look into it. Right now, quite troublesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MathewC Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Right now, quite troublesome. Would it be easier in 4.0 or will it be hard coded into the 4.0 suite same as now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted May 1, 2013 Share Posted May 1, 2013 In 4.0 we'll update to CKEditor 4 and then subsequently probably keep up to date, or yes, you can just upgrade it yourself. Since we're currently using CKEditor 3, the changes are quite significant and a lot of the functionality would break since they changed the API quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelle Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 In comparison to other options CKEditor seems really slow (and is also not responsive like redactor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikki Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 That's deceptive. It is referring to the file of the JS files, not of any execution speeds. CKEditor is compressed, and after it is loaded by the users browser will be cached for the next time making it almost instant. While a small footprint is of course something to consider, it's not the thing to judge a script on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 There are probably a dozen editors out there and everyone will have their personal preference. We need something flexible that is able to accommodate the customizations we are going to throw at it (while also being reliable, maintained, etc.). In our previous investigations, very few editors are up to this task. There's a reason CKEditor and TinyMCE are amongst the most-used WYSIWYG editors after all. Nothing against other editors out there of course, but it's hard to compete with a full developer team when it's a one-person show working on the editor in their spare time. :) (I'm not speaking of redactor specifically here, I know little about it personally). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelle Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 First of all I want to point out that it is not my intention to convince you in choosing a replacement of CKEditor. I just think that when a product gets a major update, it is wise to investigate all current options on every part of the product. So it is more or less a product screening where customers and developers can gather valuable information to ensure a great product release. That being said I understand that you (and we customers) need a flexible and reliable wysiwyg editor that you (we) can work with. On the other hand it makes sense to investigate if there have been any crucial changes within the editor market, lately. There are numerous posts on other boards that TinyMCE has also a lot of issues and that a competitive forum vendor switched to redactor recently because of these problems. From a customer viewpoint I can only contribute my impression that CKEditor feels a little slow while loading the editor icons. It is not really all that of an issue, but it is noticeable compared to e.g. redactor. Speed is of course only one of many criteria when choosing an editor and I think that you will have profound reasons when you choose the right editor for your product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonya* Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 As I have been active in open source development of one CMS, I can show how they solve editor integration smoothly. Probably you can pick up some ideas. 1. Global look-and-feel of the editor is set in ACP 2. There are 3 roles to customize editor appearance (admin, publisher and user). You can see on the screenshot that editor toolbars are fully customizable for each role. 3. Every native or 3rd party editor plugin can be loaded additionally into plugin folder and switched on and off in the backend. This is just a "play" with settings making them not hardcoded in the js files but customizable. You do similar thing with different editor setting for admin and frontend right now. But your settings are still hardcoded and to change them (e. g. adding emoticons button to the comments) requires editing of core js. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I think you'll like what we have in store for the editor in 4.0. ;) We actually have a proof of concept up and working already, but it's not done yet. When we have something to show, we'll blog about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmacleo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 it really would be nice it it was designed around using full cke and cke plugins/updates were allowed. but I don't know enough about the design/workings to even speak much on it. looking fwd to that blog :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomAleold Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 a very little suggestion: multi-choice text emoticon? such as I use :P as :tongue: or :lingua: ... I could make copies of emoticons, but I thought we could add to each box the option to choose alternative/alias as for bbcode. thanks for your works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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