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Mine's right now running at 1700 people online (15min but ppl tend to stay for a while, so should smiliar-ish with 5min) with similar spec to yours (but E3 server with ECC).
Running on nginx reverse proxy to apache with mysql and memcache. But, I'm pretty much at my machine limits right now... So, you can plan accordingly.

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Hello,



I want to know, which Hardware is acceptable for 1000 User online at the same time ?



My

prefered Server

will have the following configuration :



EX4- Server :



Intel Quadcore I7-2600 ( 3,4 GHZ )


16 GB DDR3 RAM


2 x 3 TB SATA ( 6 Gb/s HDD - 7200 rpm - Software RAID 1 )


1Gbit Network




Is this ok ?




Lol! do you need that much power for 1000 online people? :o
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Looking at moving to a dedicated server. Can anyone recommend some good sources? If it is not something that we can speak of here on the forum, can any/all send me a pm?

For your consideration, I am not a technical person that is able or inclined to run a dedicated server myself. So I would want to find a service/company that offered tech support and the cPanel kind of login functionality that we have now on our shared hosting service.

Thanks,

Brian

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Webhostingtalk.com would be a good place to start, host offers and research/questions are there

If your not going to be hosting other peoples sites, cPanel is not required (and will save $$). Webmin is a free control panel that lets you manage the OS. If your not a technical person you can get managed dedicated servers

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You will most likely need raid 10 15k sas drives depending on your mods etc, you may be able to get away with raid 1 15k sas, but nothing less. Also keep in mind 1000 users in 5 minutes is three times the usage of 1000 in 15 minutes.

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You will most likely need raid 10 15k sas drives depending on your mods etc, you may be able to get away with raid 1 15k sas, but nothing less. Also keep in mind 1000 users in 5 minutes is three times the usage of 1000 in 15 minutes.



I don't think the recent replier is having 1000 / 5min... Just happened to be hijacking thread...

In my opinion, I think 15k sas has become obsolete. For space, SATA is more economical. And for speed, ssd is not only so much faster, more economical (if you don't need speed) AND more reliable as of today.
4x raid 10 15k sas drive hw raid /w bbu vs 2x soft raid 1 ssd
ssd will win in a landslide in iops and random read/write.
ssd setup will be cheaper, significantly.
the failure rate of any spinning disk is now higher than an intel ssd. and there's 2x more quantity. which means that much even higher potential to fail.
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I don't think the recent replier is having 1000 / 5min... Just happened to be hijacking thread...



In my opinion, I think 15k sas has become obsolete. For space, SATA is more economical. And for speed, ssd is not only so much faster, more economical (if you don't need speed) AND more reliable as of today.


4x raid 10 15k sas drive hw raid /w bbu vs 2x soft raid 1 ssd


ssd will win in a landslide in iops and random read/write.


ssd setup will be cheaper, significantly.


the failure rate of any spinning disk is now higher than an intel ssd. and there's 2x more quantity. which means that much even higher potential to fail.




SSD's at a server level spec are still out of range for most if you need any type of space, yes you can use a lesser quality drive, however the repetitive writing issue with ssd drives are still not optimal for large sites/servers unless you want to replace them every year. 15k SAS is far from obsolete as well, it's actually the "standard" for med level servers. I built two servers this week with them, they are rock solid and perform very well for the price.
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SSD's at a server level spec are still out of range for most if you need any type of space, yes you can use a lesser quality drive, however the repetitive writing issue with ssd drives are still not optimal for large sites/servers unless you want to replace them every year. 15k SAS is far from obsolete as well, it's actually the "standard" for med level servers. I built two servers this week with them, they are rock solid and perform very well for the price.



I would beg to differ, with evidence.
My IPB has at max 4k online/5min interval. It's pretty active. My db server run on two SSDs with raid 1. These are Intel 320, they are not enterprise SSD.
These have been running for about 4+ month or so now and here's the disk wear...

smartctl -data -A /dev/sda | grep Media 233 Media_Wearout_Indicator 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0





Still 100%. I doubt that I'll be replacing these every year.

Also, according to Intel, the life/endurance rating of an ssd is 5 years at 20GB write/day. (source)
I don't write 20GB/day... not even close. Given my current usage of the SSD, I'd expect the SSD to be the longest living component.

On top of that!! You can employ over provisioning techniques to make the consumer Intel SSDs perform better and have the reliability of enterprise SSDs.

It's true that consumer SSD used to have a puny life span. But it's just not true anymore. I'd expect SSDs to live longer than spinning drives. That's why I said, 15k drives are obsolete because consumer SSDs out-perform and out-price them.

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Grumpy, are you on mysql or percona? i think they made lot of modifications to make it more reliable on SSD, also, would you give your url?



MySQL.
Second q: No. Though, I'm sure IPB staff can check my profile and confirm, but I keep prof/personal separate. And my activity here is entirely personal.
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Grumpy I won't keep going, we can disagree on this, it's ok! :smile:

http://www.rackspace...configurations/

One of the largest server providers in the world... and their main offering is SAS... SAS is simple not obsolete as you say... however you can think that and it's ok too! :smile:

On the SSD, yes they are improving, however putting consumer level products in a commercial hosting environmental isn't something most will do, including me.

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Grumpy I won't keep going, we can disagree on this, it's ok! :smile:



http://www.rackspace...configurations/

One of the largest server providers in the world... and their main offering is SAS... SAS is simple not [font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828]obsolete as you say... however you can think that and it's ok too! :smile: [/color][/font]



[font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][color=#282828]On the SSD, yes they are improving, however putting consumer level products in a commercial hosting environmental isn't something most will do, including me. [/color][/font]



that reduces to only a few variables..mostly cost/time

for me, a new server with SAS/raid could cost me near 6 months of earnings, while 2 SSD would cost me 2 months, to say something..and maybe i would have to replace them once a year...
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that reduces to only a few variables..mostly cost/time



for me, a new server with SAS/raid could cost me near 6 months of earnings, while 2 SSD would cost me 2 months, to say something..and maybe i would have to replace them once a year...


that's probably now due to the Thailand floods affecting SATA/SAS non-SSD prices. I've seen a few web hosts drop their SAS/SCSI disk offerings now as it's more costly than the new Intel 320 and 520 series SSDs available.

Rackspace would have more buying power to secure SAS/SCSI stock than smaller web hosts too.
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