Hi,

I do own a Invision Power Board Perpetual License and did receive an invoice to follow with the support service.
Support Expired now.

The question is that I can't post, answer or see many categories in ipsbeyond.

I can download IP converge but can't access IP.Converge per example.

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Do I need to buy the 30$ support service to participate in Ipsbeyond ?

Thanks

Yes, access to IPSBeyond is for members with active support licenses only.

Hi Michael

I was not sure about it...Thanks

How could I download one of my skin

http://www.ipsbeyond.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=24244

I don't have any backup of it and can't download it anymore....

Thanks

Please email me (admin@ipsbeyond.com) and I'll see what I can do for you.

Hi BFarber

I did get it.
Can i renew the support service at any time ?

Thanks a lot for your help.

Bye

Yes, you can renew your license at any time. :)

I really think this needs to be reworked...In my opinion, people with expired licenses should still be able to download resources (skins, mods, etc.), but not be able to post to the Support section - after all, by their License details, they do own the board in every aspect except support.

I really think this needs to be reworked...In my opinion, people with expired licenses should still be able to download resources (skins, mods, etc.), but not be able to post to the Support section - after all, by their License details, they do own the board in every aspect except support.

I dunno, in that way they'd be consuming IPS' resources (bandwidth, etc) without giving back at all. I feel that people with expired licenses who have posted something to IPSBeyonds download system should be able to use the downloads freely, as they are contributing in ways other than money (i.e. helping make it the most comprehensive resource site out there).

But then, I think they're planning on all that sort of funky stuff anyway.

I really think this needs to be reworked...In my opinion, people with expired licenses should still be able to download resources (skins, mods, etc.), but not be able to post to the Support section - after all, by their License details, they do own the board in every aspect except support.

Much consideration and discussion (both internal and public) has been put into that policy. Ultimately, a perpetual license is simply the right to perpetually use the software and access updates. Early beta releases, access to IPSBeyond and any other perks or services we may offer now or in the future are and will remain limited to those who continue to further the growth of IPS and its products and services by maintaining an active license for the products/services they use. :)

Ultimately, a perpetual license is simply the right to perpetually use the software and access updates.

More accurately, "a perpetual license is simply the right to [...] access updates" since none of your software is time-limited. :ph34r:

Much consideration and discussion (both internal and public) has been put into that policy. Ultimately, a perpetual license is simply the right to perpetually use the software and access updates.

Early beta releases

, access to IPSBeyond and any other perks or services we may offer now or in the future are and will remain limited to those who continue to further the growth of IPS and its products and services by maintaining an active license for the products/services they use. :)

Then why do I have access to Nexus in the client area?

To be honest, the only reason I don't have an active license is that I think I don't have the money to spend on the 1 or 2 support questions I have in a year's time, that I can answer myself with a little time searching through the ACP.

Then why do I have access to Nexus in the client area?

To be honest, the only reason I don't have an active license is that I think I don't have the money to spend on the 1 or 2 support questions I have in a year's time, that I can answer myself with a little time searching through the ACP.

Anyone with access to the client center can download the Nexus beta.

As for user-to-user support, there are plenty of good alternatives. Having read/post access on IPSbeyond doesn't guarantee an answer to your issue(s) anyway.

Rick! You're BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ok, back to reality. Can someone tell me why, you guys got rid of the life time license thing?

Oh, that's easy. They'd bankrupt themselves if they were supporting people for their entire lifetime with no added payment. Think of it like this, you pay once a finite amount for support, then consume a potentially infinite amount of their resources (support tech salary, bandwidth, phone minutes). At some point, the amount you cost them would exceed the amount you made them. It'd just bad business sense, and would be criminal in a publically traded company.

@ Kyanar - couldn't it be lifetime but you have a set amount of calls/tickets you can send. It would be like having a cell phone service. Lets say 2 hours per month and 60 tickets? :unsure:

I see, they should at least make it a choice. But say it would cost 210 /around.

@ Kyanar - couldn't it be lifetime but you have a set amount of calls/tickets you can send. It would be like having a cell phone service. Lets say 2 hours per month and 60 tickets? :unsure:

Nope. There is still the possibility that you could potentially cost more than you pay over a certain period of time. I'm not kididng here, single payments for lifetime support is simply not economically viable. It'd be nothing like having a cellphone service because last I checked, cellphone service was paid for monthly.

SwitchFX, the Lifetime license was $199 previously.

Exactly - I can only imagine what would happen if lifetime licenses were offered and everyone utilized the option. Imagine, after 5 years everyone who wants an IPB forum has purchased one, paying one hefty sum up front (say $500, just for giggles). After 5 years, no one is purchasing the software (so we have no incoming revenue) but we still have to release updates and provide support. How could a company possibly do that? Sure, it's improbable that everyone will suddenly stop purchasing forums (or whatever else we come out with) - but without any recurring revenue, I'd imagine it would be hard to sustain a business.

My .02

Agree with you but when there was option for life time then also there was many user who was buying the yearly license mate .Its not easy for all to buy for life time license .Still u will get paid for support .

Exactly - I can only imagine what would happen if lifetime licenses were offered and everyone utilized the option. Imagine, after 5 years everyone who wants an IPB forum has purchased one, paying one hefty sum up front (say $500, just for giggles). After 5 years, no one is purchasing the software (so we have no incoming revenue) but we still have to release updates and provide support. How could a company possibly do that? Sure, it's improbable that everyone will suddenly stop purchasing forums (or whatever else we come out with) - but without any recurring revenue, I'd imagine it would be hard to sustain a business.

My .02

That is a very good point. Besides, I rather IPS worry about making quality products that we have come to know and love and if I'm running over my tech support minutes. :thumbsup:

Pff, it's SO much more fun to keep track of all of that, and have to figure it out for yourself when your minutes are up. Makes IPS look better too.

Exactly - I can only imagine what would happen if lifetime licenses were offered and everyone utilized the option. Imagine, after 5 years everyone who wants an IPB forum has purchased one, paying one hefty sum up front (say $500, just for giggles). After 5 years, no one is purchasing the software (so we have no incoming revenue) but we still have to release updates and provide support. How could a company possibly do that? Sure, it's improbable that everyone will suddenly stop purchasing forums (or whatever else we come out with) - but without any recurring revenue, I'd imagine it would be hard to sustain a business.

My .02

Yes, If the IPB was $500, I will not purchase it. And everyone going to vbulletin, invisionfree, smf, phpbb and such free forum services. Anyway, I

I didn't say it would be - I was just throwing out a random number to compensate for "Lifetime" support/updates in my example.

no matter the cost a lifetime license would be more beneficial in the long run. I paid $300 for the lifetime license I have now. If your break down the license cost.

for Perpetual-$185 to start- $30/yr in 5 years time renewing support every year, It would cost me more than what i paid for the lifetime
Yearly-$70- renewal yearly once again in 5 years time I would pay more


Current Standard- $149 start $25/6 months- in less than 5 years i would pay the same amount.

5 year thing there funny how that worked out. No matter the cost a Lifetime license would always make more sense to buy.

Now looking at what bfarber has said, I would agree the offering lifetime would not be beneficial to them 5 years down the line.

I didn't say it would be - I was just throwing out a random number to compensate for "Lifetime" support/updates in my example.

Yes, but I think that support It will be always free is what I want to say. Why charge for that?