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Everything posted by Rikki
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They're tab-indented, although it's difficult to make out since everything is wrapping.
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Line numbers are very difficult to implement unfortunately. Tabbing is acknowledged, and searching is unnecessary, all browsers have a built in ability to do it :)
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How'd you mean?
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Ways to compensate for IPB 3.x not fully supporting IE6
Rikki replied to Fast Lane!'s topic in Feedback
You'll be pleased to know there is now a big improvement in rendering on IE6. It is not perfect and we still don't officially support it (and the experience will not match that of other browsers), but it is a little more presentable for those users still stuck on it. -
That said, for a later version we're going to see about writing something a little better to use. At the very least I would like to get the ability to press Tab in place. The full syntax highlighter simply wasn't working out though.
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If you click the little green arrow next to a user name anywhere on the board, it will show a handy little popup overview, and from there you can find all their posts/topics :)
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That's a fieldset - different browsers render them differently. It's perfectly normal :)
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It's not a perfect solution, but another option is hook into the includecss hook in globalTemplate->includeCSS, and manually insert a style tag with your css.
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If your phone supports that, then using the full skin shouldn't be an issue :) And we're not 'cutting stuff out' - it has more than the LoFi on IPB2 does. At the time, people said they liked the LoFi but wanted to be able to post, so that's what we did. Naturally you can't please everybody though :)
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The whole point of the lofi skin is to show the absolute basics. That means: no PM system, no search, no friends, no topic markers, no rating, no moderation. Topics, posts and profiles, that's it :) And yes, the CSS here hasn't been updated for some reason, so everything is ending up as a massive list.
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Are you sure you have a gallery here? It doesn't show up beside your posts either. You need to create an album first :)
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IE (any version) doesn't support rounded corners I'm afraid.
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The blue bar is staying by the way - I agree it ties things together nicely. Over the next week or so I'm also hoping to tweak various other parts of the skin to make them tidier, so if you have any suggestions in that vein, feel free to let me know.
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We have an issue right now on these forums where JS debugging is being turned on - if you don't have Firebug installed (which would apply to IE8, and possibly FF3.1), then you might experience some javascript issues. We'll be updating these forums in the next couple of days to rectify that.
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We strongly advise you do not use any Beta release as a production board.
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Ways to compensate for IPB 3.x not fully supporting IE6
Rikki replied to Fast Lane!'s topic in Feedback
You wouldn't need a hook for IE6 detection, you could do it using the expression parse tag right in the templates :) -
Ways to compensate for IPB 3.x not fully supporting IE6
Rikki replied to Fast Lane!'s topic in Feedback
Sorry I haven't replied yet, I've been away this week.I'm happy to add an IE6-only stylesheet to make the skin a bit prettier in that browser, however, this adds an additional burden to people wanting to customize their skin. I just want to make it known that there are also cons to supporting IE6, we aren't just stubbornly saying no. To be clear, our aim is to make sure people using IE6 can use IPB - but they won't get an identical experience to people with modern browsers. -
Although the terms have changed, you can still do the same thing, just in case there was confusion.
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The suspend feature was always essentially 'banning' in 2.x, but there was confusion about what it was, so we've just changed the terms we use. The features themselves work the same, but in the warning panel suspend is now called ban.
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Ban and suspend are the same thing in IPB3 - you can ban a member right from the warn panel, with a reason. To use the other ban controls, though, like changing their group, banning their email address and/or IP, you still have to go via the ACP as before, to maintain security.
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The options you would like to see won't make it in, but I'm happy to change the info on that page to be member title instead, and add the online indicator :)
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Although this isn't supported now, IPB does support log in plugins, so a modder could create a new login plugin to handle Facebook Connect. This is all the OpenID part is, too :)
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We wanted to use this blog entry to bring you an update on the brand new IPB3 skin. In my previous entry, I didn't go into any detail about the skin itself, but I did introduce the Style Guide and some goals/ambitions for the front-end interface. We're now at a stage where we can talk about the skin itself. Whereas most of our other entries explain one particular feature in-depth, this post will be more of a quick-fire overview of some of things we're implementing on the front-end of IPB3, and some other tidbits. Popup Windows We took the decision to try and eliminate all popup windows from IPB3. Popup windows create several problems: in this day and age, you can't guarantee a user will even see them due to popup blockers, and secondly, with the myriad devices accessing the internet now, you can't be sure that a popup window will be supported, or a good user experience. Instead, where browsers support it, inline ajax-populated popups are being used. Where browsers don't support it, the user is taken to the content like they would any other page. Our goal is to keep the entire experience confined to one browser window/tab, as I believe it should be. This includes friends management and warning management (for moderators). Unobtrusive Javascript Going hand-in-hand with the above was a desire to make IPB fully usable even if you had javascript disabled. As such, we've worked to make every feature, as far as is possible, available and usable even without javascript. There are some exceptions to this, e.g. the post editor (although you can still post, you'll just see a textarea), but on the whole we're on our way to making IPB3 much more accessible than IPB2. Getting at user information IPB has a lot of relevant information about each user, but presently it can be tedious to access the important details quickly since you have to go to their profile, taking you out of your workflow. New to IPB3 is a user card which can be accessed almost anywhere; wherever you see a username, simply hover over it to get all the relevant information for that user, including photo, contact details and reputation. This has been implemented in such a way that skinners and modders can also integrate it incredibly easily. We've also added a new bbcode which allows users to create these special links from within their posts. Better uploading tools In the past we've had numerous calls for TRUE multiple attachments. You'll be pleased to know that we've fully integrated SWFUpload into IPB3 for webservers that support it (which should be most). For those unfamiliar with this tool, it allows users to select multiple files in the Open dialog, and javascript then manages the upload queue for you. Another cool improvement is we now support upload progressbars with no additional server requirements! In addition, if you upload images, you'll see a thumbnail immediately, making it easy to insert the right image to your post, right where you want it. Searching The search form and results page have both been completely redesigned. Since the search mechanism in IPB3 underwent such a big change in being able to search all applications at once, we needed a new interface that made this easy to use. The result is a search form that adapts, showing you additional filters based on the applications you've chosen to search. The search results page combines all results from the applications you selected, but also allows you to show the results from just one application at a time. And finally, multiple results from one object (e.g. several matching posts in one topic) are grouped together so it's really easy to see the breakdown of your results. Other significant improvements While almost every page of IPB3 has been recoded from scratch and improved, some areas have undergone more changes than most. I'll cover them briefly so you know what you can expect when we unveil the skin: Improved board index One of the first steps I made when developing the new skin was to look at each major page and figure out if it could be made more useful than it is now. One result of this process was to improve the board index - and the new hooks system made this possible. The board index now features a collapsible sidebar, showing relevant information such as recent topics, top posters and more. Naturally, since this is hook-based, mod authors will be able to easily add their own data to this area. User control panel The control panel was a big focus right from the start. We first knew we were going to remove the messenger from the UCP, since it didn't fit conceptually. What was left has been redesigned, with settings broken down into tabbed sections, showing only the menu for that section - this should prevent new users from being overwhelmed when they open their UCP and seeing so many links. Messenger As noted above, the Messenger is now its own complete section, reducing clutter. User profiles User profiles have been redesigned, bringing them more into line with what users might expect from their favorite social networking sites. One new feature we're excited about is a Recent Activity feed, which allows you to see quickly what content a user has contributed recently, be it topics or posts, calendar events, images and more. This is made possible by the search index, which we covered in a previous post. Media tag We've added a new bbcode tag, which will insert all kinds of media right into a post. If you put a YouTube link in a media tag, it'll insert the YouTube player; similarly, if you link to a Flickr album, it'll insert a Flickr slideshow. New media handlers can be created in the ACP for those sites we don't support out of the box, while still using the same tag - making it really simple for your users. Quick PM One last feature to mention - we have implemented a Quick PM feature, which allows you to PM a member from topic view without leaving the page. We hope this increases personal communication, and reduces the chance of topics going off-topic. I hope that gives you some idea of what you can look forward to with regards to the front-end appearance of IPB3. We'll be previewing the actual design of the skin in the coming weeks as we ramp up testing, so if you have any questions, comments or suggestions on the things I've covered here, now is a good time to get them out!
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One of the first items we determined for IPBoard 3 was that it was going to ship with a brand new skin. Our current skin has been with us since the first release of IPB2, and the style goes back even further than that. The Pro skin was introduced more recently, but its main intention was to simplify, rather than bring a significant update. And so, the responsibility for designing and implementing the new skin came to me. This is a huge undertaking, both in terms of scope and sheer scale. The skin is the most visible part of any product; it is what forms your first impression, it is the part you use every moment. In addition, since we have big upgrades to the template system coming (detailed here), every aspect of the skin must be redone, from scratch. IPBoard is a huge application, so this is no mean feat. Objectives Before even considering the visual appearance of the skin, I wanted to set down some objectives for it. These are: - Ensure semantic markup as far as reasonably possible - Ensure XHTML validation (1.0 Strict) - Ensure Javascript is unobtrusive These objectives have real benefits for the modern web. Semantic markup is not only good for screenreaders, but it provides a solid base for skinners. When all stylistic decision is removed from the XHTML, those decisions can now be made in the CSS alone. My goal with the new skin is to minimize the need to edit templates, and semantic markup forms a part of this. The hope is the majority of skins will be achieved simply by editing CSS - I'm sure admins will appreciate how much easier upgrading will be when templates remain largely identical across skins! Another great benefit of semantic code is that we will now be able to serve a printer-specific stylesheet, and do away with the 'print-view' code in IPB itself. Javascript IPBoard 3 is going to ship with the PrototypeJS library. I've always believed that the new generation of Javascript libraries are a big step forward for Javascript usability, so I'm looking forward to making use of them (Nexus beta testers will know we already use it heavily in that product). PrototypeJS allows developers to focus on writing features, rather than fixing cross-browser compatibility issues or poor support for a particular part of the language. We'll be making use of the excellent event-handling capabilities to get as much Javascript as possible out of the IPBoard templates. Skins shipping with IPBoard 3 Our plan right now is to ship at least 3 skins with IPBoard 3. These will be: the default 'fancy' skin; a simplified skin intended to be used as a base for skinners; and a mobile skin, a lightweight version designed for use on mobile devices. This last skin will do away with the present lo-fi version, and become a full-fledged 'light' alternative, complete with posting, searching and so forth. Style Guide To ensure all developers within IPS are on the same track when writing XHTML and CSS, I developed a style guide that we will be using internally. This formalizes the practices we will be using and should help to ensure consistent output. I want to make the guide available to the public partly for review, but primarily so that our modding and skinning community can ensure their code follows our standards too, if they wish. Your feedback and thoughts on the guide are welcome. IPS_style_guide.doc Feedback I'm deliberately avoiding showing the progress on the new skins, but they are underway. Once they are nearer to completion we will begin previewing the design itself. For now, I just wanted to introduce you to our line of thinking and aims for the interface side of IPBoard 3 development. If you have any feedback on things I've mentioned here, or more general feedback about improvements you'd like to see in the IPB3 skin, I encourage you to leave a comment.