Mopar1973Man Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 I operate on a donation type system. Typically members get rather upset seeing email sent from the saying its a subscription and you have to renew. So I set the renewal price to zero to hopefully disable the email. The customers that buy products are in a sense paying their donation to the site as well. So I don't want to present the site as a subscription model but allow it to stay like it is will donation model when they can afford to donate. Ok to clarify normally Devfuse "Donation" plugin handles most all the donations. What I want to do is provide a "Customer" membership for 1 years without renewal and ZERO price because of the purchase of the product. More or less a member purchases a "High Idle Kit" from the site I want to provide a 1 year support membership that does NOT renew and ZERO price because it more or less included to the purchase of the high idle kit. So at this point I've got sales occurring but no way to provided limited 1 year membership for these purchases.
Woodsman Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 If you have Commerce a donations package is included. Hope this helps.
MADMAN32395 Posted March 18, 2016 Posted March 18, 2016 He may be using it for usergroups. Afaik donations wouldn't boost group. What he could do is change the email template or language to rephrase it?
Mopar1973Man Posted March 19, 2016 Author Posted March 19, 2016 Mad Man got it. The IP.Nexus donation doesn't work for that it just takes the donation and gives nothing to the member in return. So Devfuse Donation module do this perfectly. I've just open a store and selling truck parts and want to give 1 year of customer membership without a renewal and without a email. I want it to just terminate quietly without a email notification. Just like most things today you buy a product and get 1 year of warranty and just quietly terminates. I do not want it to renew.
MADMAN32395 Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Mopar1973Man said: Mad Man got it. The IP.Nexus donation doesn't work for that it just takes the donation and gives nothing to the member in return. So Devfuse Donation module do this perfectly. I've just open a store and selling truck parts and want to give 1 year of customer membership without a renewal and without a email. I want it to just terminate quietly without a email notification. Just like most things today you buy a product and get 1 year of warranty and just quietly terminates. I do not want it to renew. would it work if you just turn emails off for those? https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0mBb9QuGv84c2tYbXpUWHRYVVU/view?usp=drivesdk then set renew and expire to 0 days, so when it comes chance to renew it would already be too late lol
Mopar1973Man Posted March 20, 2016 Author Posted March 20, 2016 That was a dud... Everything was already unselected but still sending emails. The way I see that is "Emails to receive a copy of.." In other words in the box below you can receive a copy of these selected email yourself as a "Admin" or staff member.
MADMAN32395 Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, Mopar1973Man said: That was a dud... Everything was already unselected but still sending emails. The way I see that is "Emails to receive a copy of.." In other words in the box below you can receive a copy of these selected email yourself as a "Admin" or staff member. oh heh. i see now.
Management Lindy Posted March 20, 2016 Management Posted March 20, 2016 Just so I'm clear on the request, you'd like for physical purchases to have a silent user group subscription for a definite amount of time?
Mopar1973Man Posted March 20, 2016 Author Posted March 20, 2016 Yes. That way if a customer makes a purchase they are moved to a "Customer" group then given support abilities and other functions. But after a set amount of time (one year) I need to to terminate completely without email notice of renewal. Like real world market most things you buy have a 30, 90 or 1 year manufactures warranty and just quietly terminates after the period of time. I don't know of many that email you back and ask for renewal fees to extending warranties. Maybe auto manufactures with extended warranties would be my own quick answer. Just need to tweak the renewal process to have no email and termination period to roll back to normal member. A sample of our product during production...
bradl Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Perhaps related to the donations aspect of this … I would be thrilled if I could use the "Restrictions" tab in member management (or something like it) to set temporary group assignments. In my club scenario I can think of lots of time-related, non-commerce reasons for temporary time-expiring group assignments. Committee assignments, governance positions, event management, and so on. It would also be useful on my other site where I sometimes get donations in lieu of or that exceed the premium membership option. I'd love to silently set privileged group assignments that expired quietly. Right now I do it manually with an admin-only calendar to remind me when to expire them.
Mopar1973Man Posted March 21, 2016 Author Posted March 21, 2016 6 hours ago, bradl said: Right now I do it manually with an admin-only calendar to remind me when to expire them. That the problem right there. There is very little control of groups time wise. Like anyone can manual flip a member from group A to Group B. The problem is there is no expire time in the profile. So we are stuck using donation mods, or IP.nexus to control group membership and time span. Personally it would be awesome if the members profile in the AdminCP showed the expire time and possibly had a default expire group an Admin could set. Then you could manual add a member to group say for trial period 30 days. Still need to break away from the expire time where the software want to ask for renewal fees and sending emails. @bradl I agree with you 100%...
chilihead Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 I was going to say, you sell a product and you can promote groups with products, the problem is you can't set the duration of the group change. You have to enable renewals and set the period for renewals, and it inherits that period for the initial duration. This would also be an issue for anyone wanting to sell a non-renewable membership. No way to set the duration. Looks like Advertisement products have this flaw as well. You can set them to expire for impressions/click, but to set a date it says to enable renewals. An expiry date not associated with renewals would be good for those that need it. Maybe that's the first period. Then, renewals is only turned on for actually renewing. Then you could even do things like, member buys 1 year, but renewal terms are every 6 mos. after.
Mopar1973Man Posted March 22, 2016 Author Posted March 22, 2016 1 hour ago, chilihead said: You have to enable renewals and set the period for renewals, Renewal is the huge issue here. When you buy item from anyone typically it comes with a warranty for period of time. Then terminates without being able to renew the warranty over and over. 1 hour ago, chilihead said: This would also be an issue for anyone wanting to sell a non-renewable membership. No way to set the duration. Agreed. Like my example of trial version of membership to a site. You wouldn't want a member to keep renewing a free membership or trial membership would you? 1 hour ago, chilihead said: An expiry date not associated with renewals would be good for those that need it. I really could use it.
Mopar1973Man Posted April 2, 2016 Author Posted April 2, 2016 I see that 4.1.10 is on its way out is there any news if this made it to the 4.1.10 or being considered in the 4.1.11 version?
Mopar1973Man Posted May 10, 2016 Author Posted May 10, 2016 4.1.11.1 is out. Is there any word if this made into the software or not? I really hate to change settings to attempt to try something but to have it choke like it did in the past which made all kind of issues for people attempting to purchase products. So can anyone on the staff please let me know if this feature made it or not?
TSP Posted September 13, 2016 Posted September 13, 2016 Looks like they may have forgotten about the suggestion. I'm not into Commerce myself, but I agree this is a reasonable request.
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