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jackmilas Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Currently the way URLs are recognized by IP.Board is the http:// part of the address. So when we insert http://www.bbc.co.uk/ it is parsed as link, but when we type www.bbc.co.uk it stays as normal text. Also, the problem is with IMG tag. When there is no http:// in the image address, the picture will not show. People are used to typing addresses without http:// and IP.Board is out of date in this regard. There is a simple way to describe what is a URL and what isn't without the http:// part.
Aiwa Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 In general, I agree with you... I'd like to see it handle www. or any of the regular .com, .net, .org, etc domains... But what about.. "Hey, go to youtu.be"... youtu.be is a valid link, but could also be construed as poor punctuation and not a link.. What would your solution for that be without preg matching the whole post content with hundreds of permutations of domain extensions?
Christian M. Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Currently the way URLs are recognized by IP.Board is the http:// part of the address. So when we insert http://www.bbc.co.uk/ it is parsed as link, but when we type www.bbc.co.uk it stays as normal text. Also, the problem is with IMG tag. When there is no http:// in the image address, the picture will not show. People are used to typing addresses without http:// and IP.Board is out of date in this regard. There is a simple way to describe what is a URL and what isn't without the http:// part. Although that may be a good option there are people who actually don't like the idea and just want it to not be a link :/. you could be saying www and not mean for it to be a link. And plus there is the bbcode image in the ckeditor that adds the http:// part for you so u dont have to worry about it :/ why dont people use it?
Aiwa Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 You could also just click the 'link' button in the ckeditor and type in the short version of anything, youtu.be or www.google.com, and and have it add the http:// for you. http://youtu.be
bfarber Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Many automatic parsing systems I've seen that do this often break textual posts significantly. I've seen people type "www.threads" and the system tries to link it. Or "wowww. that's silly" and it tries to link it.
Management Charles Posted November 26, 2012 Management Posted November 26, 2012 Not to mention the "www." prefix convention is becoming a thing of the past.
Rimi Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Can you imagine IPB constantly trying to link the word community?
jackmilas Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 Many automatic parsing systems I've seen that do this often break textual posts significantly. I've seen people type "www.threads" and the system tries to link it. Or "wowww. that's silly" and it tries to link it. Well, you could always ask Google or Facebook how they do that. Check how Xenforo does that. I think badly programmed parsing would behave the way you described. But there are some smart programmers working at IPS, aren't there? For people that would not want that in their communities there might be an option to switch it off in ACP. But I feel that here some of you forget that forums are not for computer geeks. They are for musicians, for parents, for car enthusiasts and mostly for normal people. They will appreciate simplicity of not having to add http:// when they want to type in www.autosport.com link. Oh, sorry, that was supposed to be http://www.autosport.com ...
Saiga Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 They will appreciate simplicity of not having to add http:// when they want to type in www.autosport.com link. Oh, sorry, that was supposed to be http://www.autosport.com ... Or they would more than likely just use the link button in the editor and let the editor do it for them.
Aiwa Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 They will appreciate simplicity of not having to add http:// when they want to type in www.autosport.com link. Oh, sorry, that was supposed to be http://www.autosport.com ... Then just tell them to use the link button... Click it once, type your URL, and it adds the http:// for them... To be perfectly honest, I like the WYSIWYG approach over the 'we are going to automagically comb through your post and replace what we want without you knowing about it until after it's submitted'
jackmilas Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 Or they would more than likely just use the link button in the editor and let the editor do it for them. Yes, they would love that so much that they would feel lost in gmail and facebook where they don't have the link button and links are normally parsed. Check www.gmail.com and www.facebook.com if you don't believe me. Sorry, I can't bother with using the link button. Actually IP.Board is the only forum script I know that requires http:// or pressing the link button.
jackmilas Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 Let me try to add a picture. The address is: www.dzwiek.org/board/admin/skin_cp/images/logo.png I paste the address using "Image" button: oooppsss... no picture, it just says "logo.png" because there was no http:// there...
Rimi Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Let me try to add a picture. The address is: www.dzwiek.org/board/admin/skin_cp/images/logo.png I paste the address using "Image" button: oooppsss... no picture, it just says "logo.png" because there was no http:// there... If a browser is failing to copy the http:// when you copy the url of the image then that's a browser bug.
jackmilas Posted November 26, 2012 Author Posted November 26, 2012 here is how google is dealing with no http:// addresses: that is a screenshot of an email that I just sent
Marcher Technologies Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 here is how google is dealing with no http:// addresses: Screen Shot 2012-11-26 at 10.34.42 PM.jpg that is a screenshot of an email that I just sent and i will bet 10/1 odds that is because all of those url's are indexed. Google has a database of every link type that can possibly exist through virtue of having a crawler. Surely you do not expect IPB to have that? To run regexes on all post content on display against such a database? You should easily realize this is a security and resource concern, allowing *anything* to be used in a link href is tantamount to allowing XSS injection.
Saiga Posted November 26, 2012 Posted November 26, 2012 Yes, they would love that so much that they would feel lost in gmail and facebook where they don't have the link button and links are normally parsed. Check www.gmail.com and www.facebook.com if you don't believe me. Sorry, I can't bother with using the link button. Actually IP.Board is the only forum script I know that requires http:// or pressing the link button. Not that it matters to you, but just pointing this out. " alt="idlW2BWzH9Wvu.png"> I am sorry you can't bother with using the link button, but many others do and are completely fine with having to do so.
Cheapy Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I would like to see this addressed. At least give us an option. Worked fine in vB. would like to be able to post links to www.invisionpower.com and them linked.
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