The Ultimate Tool Against trolls: Ignore-EXTRA Strength

[bfarber]

No problem. We do the same with all suggestions. :)

[iozay]

I find some friendly into troll way extremely handy. They are just a pain to remove peacefully.

[Wolfie]

I think this would be better off as an Add-On, mostly as a community project, overseen by the IPS resources team, that way it's more likely to integrate without problems, is easy to find, free to use and isn't part of the main package.

To make something like this part of the main package would, IMO, knock it down a level as a professional product. Large businesses may look at the option in the wrong way and decide that the feature (even if 100% optional to use) is something they don't need and have them looking at other products. This can be especially true if the board would be in an internal only environment where such a feature would be utterly useless and pointless.

But as an add-on that is part of IPS via the resources, then for those of us who use IPB as a hobby (or even as a business), we can install it and use it if we feel it necessary.

The added benefit of it being an add-on is that IPB can focus on other features and improvements, while this project can get different feature requests (such as a "Miserable User" feature or just making the member invisible to everyone else, etc) and then you have all the features rolled up into one add-on package.

:)

Not against this idea at all, just feel it'd be better as an add-on.

[bfarber]

Personally, with the limited number of developers on the community developers team and the many large-scale projects already under-way, I don't see the team taking on something like this that will have limited usefulness.

It's ultimately up to them which projects they want to work on, but if they had time to do something else beyond Links, Converge Modules, Tracker, Shoutbox, PostgreSQL driver, skins, etc. then I think all of us could come up with something that has a bit wider appeal.

[Wolfie]

So then whats the status so far on this being an included feature within IPB as opposed to an application add-on?

Is it being considered to be part of IPB?

[Michael]

IPS rarely goes through each of these suggestion topics and says which will be included and which won't, but we do read them and decide to add some. Everything that is suggested is considered, but I don't think there's been a lot of buzz about this one in particular.

Personally, I agree with what you said above, Wolfie, in that this is not something that gives a very professional feel to the product, and that it's better something a mod author should take up on their own.

[Wolfie]

My problem is that I like professional products, but for entertainment use. :whistle:

I like that IPB is a sturdy product designed for business use but then there are mods/addons that give the fun for non-business environments. This is one that I'd like to see (as a mod/addon), even though at this point I wouldn't be making use of it. It'd still be useful to have available though. So hoping that it's somehow made.

My point in asking about it being considered was to get a feel for if it's possible that it's going to be added or if it's more of a "not likely, this needs to be an add-on". Nothing concrete, but still a hint.

Thanks for the acknowledgment on my point. Wasn't sure if I was hitting an important one or not.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

My problem is that I like professional products, but for entertainment use. :whistle:

I like that IPB is a sturdy product designed for business use but then there are mods/addons that give the fun for non-business environments. This is one that I'd like to see (as a mod/addon), even though at this point I wouldn't be making use of it. It'd still be useful to have available though. So hoping that it's somehow made.

My point in asking about it being considered was to get a feel for if it's possible that it's going to be added or if it's more of a "not likely, this needs to be an add-on". Nothing concrete, but still a hint.

Thanks for the acknowledgment on my point. Wasn't sure if I was hitting an important one or not.

glad to see a customer asking rather than just a nOOb forum member

if a forum is set up staunchly "Right" or "Left" anyone who strays can get the boot from Admin who want to steer its direction

for any forum that is intended to be allowed to grow in whatever direction the flow might take it (people start to agree the world is round etc)

the "Block Me" feature would allow the contributers to monitor and moderate the content in a manor that would allow the most growth (of thoughts)

what might piss off an Admin to the point of removing someone from a forum is biased on the views of the Admin

what eats away at a member that is contributing positively to the forum might not even be noticed by the Admin even when seen

Let the members help you to get the feel of what's going on in the forum

if 80% (including you) think someone is funny and 20% think that someone is over the top with responses to their posts. Why not allow the 20% to be free from what might drive them away and the 80% enjoy reading what they want

that guy trying to point out why he believes the world is round my well have left long before anyone could see the reasoning

I know that guy could just go to a "the world is round" forum and everyone would just say Yes - Yes - Yes but only those sharing the same beliefs would hear him = Non Constructive

I can see where one who starts a forum might want to keep its structure to match their beliefs like "the world is flat

but that is not the future of "the most successful forums" Otherwise you should just make a Mini Forum with just the founder who is the Admin and only Member allowed ---> Like those you see talking to themselves (without a bluetooth)

= every single person could have there own forum free from others views


Please consider a "Block Me" it Will help You

an add-on would be fine


Oh and the earth circles around the SUN




running for the door :-O

[Wolfie]

if a forum is set up staunchly "Right" or "Left" anyone who strays can get the boot from Admin who want to steer its direction

If the admin is that heavy footed, then is it a board you really want to be a member of?

I run a couple of low-volume boards and my general feel is that if someone wants to express an opinion in a respectful manner, then so be it. If it starts a heated debate, oh well. But I'm not going to 'discipline' them unless you are acting questionably or obnoxiously. If they disagree with my opinions in general, then it may be my site, but I have no problems with it. It's part of life and it's part of how discussions get made and such.

As an example, I one time had a member who (as I recall) was a religious nut and tried to threaten a lawsuit if I took any sort of action against them. I reminded them that my ToS permits me to pretty much do anything I darn well please on my site and they backed off. I don't believe I ever had to do anything further, as they calmed down after that.

As far as this tool is concerned, if an admin is going to have that sort of an attitude, then its unlikely that they'd install/use such a tool or at the very least, not boot someone anyway.

Not saying it wouldn't be useful. In fact, on boards where staff are constantly busy trying to police differences of opinions, to be able to hide yourself from a troll would work wonders because then a few people do it and suddenly they are free to talk without being trolled upon.

[Jimbotron]

I'd also like to make my desire for a global ignore feature like "Tachy Goes to Coventry" to be known. Banning "trolls" just charges their batteries and gets them signing up again with different stats. Putting them on a global ignore list for all current and future members (as well as guests), but be incredibly helpful.

[Biker.GA]

Tachy Goes to Coventry was a nice concept that was horribly designed and implemented. If someone was giving you that much grief on a site, then perhaps moderating the member is sufficient to straighten them up. However, allowing the membership to determine who can and can not read their posts should never be implemented.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

Tachy Goes to Coventry was a nice concept that was horribly designed and implemented. If someone was giving you that much grief on a site, then perhaps moderating the member is sufficient to straighten them up. However, allowing the membership to determine who can and can not read their posts should never be implemented.

so the choice is to let someone being haunted move on and not contribute to the forum - are you a haunter ?

letting the tribe chose to flick someone = BAD

letting one person keep another from seeing their posts will not harm the over-all forum "micro-management" @ its best

if you are admin do you really want a message from everyone not liking someone else every time they rub ??

[Biker.GA]

if you are admin do you really want a message from everyone not liking someone else every time they rub ??

Members who do that do not last long on any site. If one is too thin skinned to participate in a discussion, I don't want them. Period. And those who do cry every time they feel they've been slighted are told to grow up or leave. I have no time for them, nor do I have the patience to hand hold the whiners.

Again, letting the membership to decide who can and can not read their posts should never, ever be implemented.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

Members who do that do not last long on any site. If one is too thin skinned to participate in a discussion, I don't want them. Period. And those who do cry every time they feel they've been slighted are told to grow up or leave. I have no time for them, nor do I have the patience to hand hold the whiners.

Again, letting the membership to decide who can and can not read their posts should never, ever be implemented.

we are not coming from the same forum I see

come join in and see how your views change

you can start with the "I Hate Harley Davidson Riders Part III" thread (PS I ride a HD)

no it's not a harsh thread just one that might get you involver (registered)

come crying back here once you get to be a target of someone without a life (oh it will happen)

if you have your own forum good for you - Do Not select the Ignore-Me feature and be happy

why keep it from others (on some other forum) ?????

[Nervosa]

From what I seen, no matter what you do theyll always come back. That "Tachy Goes to Coventry" seems interesting but like said before I'm sure trolls would notice.

Something like this might be helpful
Maybe have an option where trolls cant rate down posts to circumvent them rating down good posts.

[beats23]

It would be great if IPS had such a feature. Too many Trolls are left to run free online.

I dislike negative provocative know-it-all TROLLS in all shapes and sizes.👎.