DesignzShop Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I just recently found out you need to create a new language file to make changes to any language string. That's all good except for when you make that new language the default it doesn't force the change to previous users. This is not good. Let's give a example... You have 10,000 members or more, maybe less, you need to make a change in the language string to let them know something new that could effect business. Instead, admin doesn't have time to change each member individually to the new language so they can see important new information or changes. How do you change that? IPB says run a query. I really do not see that as a good solution imo IPB. Not at all. Defaulting to a new language should override any users choice. As admin of the site it should be my choice without digging into a database, what users see. I pay for the software, not them. And that's just one example btw why an admin may need to be able to force language string changes when needed to all users Sometimes I miss things still being somewhat new to the software, so if I am missing something here, please let me know. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcher Technologies Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I just recently found out you need to create a new language file to make changes to any language string. That's all good except for when you make that new language the default it doesn't force the change to previous users. This is not good. Let's give a example... You have 10,000 members or more, maybe less, you need to make a change in the language string to let them know something new that could effect business. Instead, admin doesn't have time to change each member individually to the new language so they can see important new information or changes. How do you change that? IPB says run a query. I really do not see that as a good solution imo IPB. Not at all. Defaulting to a new language should override any users choice. As admin of the site it should be my choice without digging into a database, what users see. I pay for the software, not them. And that's just one example btw why an admin may need to be able to force language string changes when needed to all users Sometimes I miss things still being somewhat new to the software, so if I am missing something here, please let me know. Thank You They only lock it because people managed to break things spectacularly :P. http://community.invisionpower.com/topic/351179-change-page-text/#entry2195481 that can be unlocked, firstly.... you by no means have to create a whole new Lang pack to change verbiage. However, I wholeheartedly agree on the OP point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted February 11, 2012 Share Posted February 11, 2012 IPB includes the ability to move members to any language you want from the manage languages screen." alt="" class="ipsImage" width="1000px" height="337px"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesignzShop Posted February 11, 2012 Author Share Posted February 11, 2012 How are you attempting to force that specific group to use a specific language? That isn't possible by default in IP.Board. Ryan Ashbrook Me Yes it can be forced.. Swap Member Language Choice That doesn't apply to member groups at all. That only applies to if a certain member is using a certain language, then it will swap it for a different one. Regards, Ryan Ashbrook MeBeings there is no /selection/field for member choice that is pretty confusing.. Andy MIf you are referring to the fact that you cannot change the language for existing users, this is because their selection choice when they register is set as their default. It is assumed that if they visit your site and cannot read the language they would use the selector to choose one that they can. For this reason I see no value in a tool that would update all members language choices en-masse but as a courtesy the following database query should allow you to do that. Please be sure to backup before running in case of difficulties. Now, this whole ticket was because I used the feature you are referring to bfarber and it does not force a switch. As you can also see in my support ticket others who recently have remarked over the same thing Andy says thisFor this reason I see no value in a tool that would update all members language choices en-masse Don't even know what to say here. Seems closed minded considering the many needs to show current correct information to reflect your sites needs to end users. When Andy says "I" does that mean he and he only is the one deciding and seeing information like this or is shared with other developers? If there was a "team" instead of "I" this may get a different view point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Can you provide me the ticket ID? There seems to be an awful lot of confusion here, so maybe I am missing something. If a user has an individual language selection, the tool I showed in my screenshot swaps their language preference to whichever language you select. You cannot apply languages based on groups, so I'm not sure what that is in reference to. Like I said - send me the ticket ID if you would so I can figure out what I am missing here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesignzShop Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 I believe this is the ticket number.784895 Thank You Brandon, because I am confused on this one. I think everyone is on the same page. just not sure if we all see this the same if that makes sense. Kind Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 There is a lot of confusion in the ticket - I'm confused reading it myself. I shall summarize, however: 1) You cannot apply a default language on a per-group basis. The default language is site-wide. 2) Changing which language is the default does not apply to existing users. 3) You can update all existing users using the tool on the manage languages screen. This tool does not work per-member or per-group - it updates everyone (who is using the language pack you select). 4) You can edit members individually to specify which language pack those individual members should use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesignzShop Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 The tool being "Swap Member language" correct? If so, it doesn't swap everyone. I tried it, thus the reason for the ticket. I had to manually switch the account to force that English copy language. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfarber Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 When you use the tool it has multiple options. You would have to run it once for "Default language" and then again for "English (USA)" if you wanted to move all of the users to the new language pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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