The Ultimate Tool Against trolls: Ignore-EXTRA Strength

[DA-WOODY.COM]

I would like a "Block-Me" feature like the Ignore but in reverse

a web forum I post to has gained some trolls who stalk and harass people with valued contributions to the point that the good posters quit posting

if people could block a troll from viewing their posts with No option to view - the trolls would run out of ammo to ruin the forum

that would be one way a forum could self police the posters without compromising the content

I know it would work, Is it possible at this point to enable a Block-Me feature targeted at one person
in the forum I post mostly to, Blocking My posts from about 30 - 50 people would be a great start (likely just 2 or 3 people)

it's important to still let everyone else see My posts and should someone not want to ever see my post they already have the ignore feature

Let's have it both ways, The sooner the Better ................ Thank You .............. Dennis

[optrexnz]

Interesting concept, but would a ban from post or a ban from forum modification work better? That way you are sending a message to the person trolling that it is not tolerated?

[DA-WOODY.COM]

Interesting concept, but would a ban from post or a ban from forum modification work better? That way you are sending a message to the person trolling that it is not tolerated?

I would not be in favor of a level of self policing that would allow a troll with enough sock puppets to ban a member from a site! they are already trying to get them to give up posting to the forum

A "Block-Me" feature should block whoever you chose from seeing any of your posts or even posting to one of your topics(if possible & that member and there ISP/URL even better)

In effect you will have the ability to ban whoever you want at least from the forum as it pertains to you.
Site Admin can deal with the pure spamers and trolls when they feel it the proper time

It is important to keep the content of the forum fresh and positive

the trolls who are set out to disrupt the positive nature of a forum will at least share the inconvenience of their blight as they see less and less of the content

the way things are now positive members are at the mercy of the trolls till the positive members give up




OH and what about: ISP address required forum option where the ISP address is included in every post troll or not (no more hiding no matter what name you chose) [\troll(s) shivering.gif]

[webbdawg]

What about Guests? IF this site allows guests to read but not reply then anyone can see your post and know it is there.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

What about Guests? IF this site allows guests to read but not reply then anyone can see your post and know it is there.

One should never post anything you don't want the world to know

@least it would be an inconvenience for the troll as they would have to log out to read or use a troll sock puppet = can't post and if you are not logged in to our forum you can not see images (what I used to post allot of till the trolls started to run ruin the show)

but bottom line is: that one troll in it's regular incarnation could not post their hate into your thread

the list of "Block-Me" trolls should be visible in a members profile just as friends etc

if someone is replying like a troll to someone who has them on their "Block-Me" list it should be grounds to be flicked from the forum as they are just stalking someone who is not posting to them

I wish i could tell you the site as it could be (without the trolls & sock puppets) the best forum in the world -O

But wouldn't "Out" the forum and I truly feel that Every forum would benefit from having a chance to include a "Block-Me" feature

I'm positive this problem is WWWide

[optrexnz]

I'm positive this problem is WWWide

I'm sure it is too, but surely its nothing that active moderation and an ignore member button can't cure? My suggestion for a ban from post or a ban from forum modification would be for admin purposes not the general membership. No matter how I look at this proposal, I cant see the benefits from what is already available and I certainly don't think the control should lie with the member. The forum admin/moderators should just put the troll into a moderation queue so that their posts have to be approved first.

However, I notice that you are looking at this from a members point of view, rather than that of an admin and you should remember that trolling can be subjective. The other member may be posting within the forum rules but just have a different viewpoint than you do. I get this with global warming. There are 2 sides to the argument - proGW and antiGW. Neither science can be proved beyond doubt so the posts get heated and repetitive. As long as they are not rude either argument can stand, otherwise I would be censoring an opinion. If someone gets fedup they have a feature to block the poster - hence the ignore member function.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

I'm sure it is too, but surely its nothing that active moderation and an ignore member button can't cure? My suggestion for a ban from post or a ban from forum modification would be for admin purposes not the general membership. No matter how I look at this proposal, I cant see the benefits from what is already available and I certainly don't think the control should lie with the member. The forum admin/moderators should just put the troll into a moderation queue so that their posts have to be approved first.

However, I notice that you are looking at this from a members point of view, rather than that of an admin and you should remember that trolling can be subjective. The other member may be posting within the forum rules but just have a different viewpoint than you do. I get this with global warming. There are 2 sides to the argument - proGW and antiGW. Neither science can be proved beyond doubt so the posts get heated and repetitive. As long as they are not rude either argument can stand, otherwise I would be censoring an opinion. If someone gets fedup they have a feature to block the poster - hence the ignore member function.

temping to give you the site but it truly doesn't matter

I'm not talking about someone who just disagrees with even to a point of frustration
I'm talking about someone who just outright slanders someone while hiding behind a fake name
That is against the law but just like wrestling a pig in mud .................
I'm close to fed up enough to quit a forum that I have posted on as a member from 04/2004

if someone was to tear into you un-warranted and try to belittle you for you helpful advice you are giving here, I (and others) might find it hilarious and as entertaining as a fight in 5th grade "Between Others" But when it involves your self it's Not funny and if allowed to continue "You" just might quit posting

such is the case with the forum I come from the #1 Say of the forum finds the hit counts to be worth the risk of loss of the positive posters, the moderating team does not see it the same way and the herd would be much thinner if they were allowed to what should be done

I don't think it should be up to the members to give someone the boot, But to help retain members who no longer want to put up with the crap from a few the "Block Me" feature would be Great I think it would be a Win - Win for the forum

the forum I post to has not received a tremendous amount of content that it would have were it not for having to put up with trolls for having done so.

As an Admin would you rather get endless requests to delete a post, ban members etc. or give your members some slight protection from harassment

when you place a stocker troll on Ignore "You" are the only one who can't see what they are blathering about you

Like sticking your head in the sand - your ass is still hanging and the problem still exists

use the "Block-Me" feature to stick the trolls head in the sand and the problem "with that login name" will be gone

or would you rather the one being harassed be the one to leave altogether (leaving you with the troll)

[Ditchmonkey]

I ran a big board for many years and I found that Vbulletin's "Tachy Goes to Coventry" feature was the ultimate tool for making trolls go away. It is a universal ingnore that the user doesn't know has been applied - everything looks normal to the hapless victim. Troll doesn't get attention, troll goes away.

[optrexnz]

Ah look, if this mod was available, its clear that it wouldn't be used by the site in question.

Going by the clues, I think I've got the right place - its even titled anarchy! The "about us" clearly states

we have a Message Board where robust discussions will be encouraged.

If you’re looking to have your comments edited or ignored at the whim of a curmudgeon, then you’ve come to the wrong place. Got an opinion? Let’s hear it. But you better prepare for a healthy dose of reality. This is where the big kids play. If you can't stand the heat, there are other places for you of the more sensitive in nature.

Like I said, its nothing that can't be done by good moderation. The problem here is you are the member of the site in question and not the admin. The discussion and language used fits their remit, if you don't like it then its time move on.....or get a license and create your own site to rival it ;)

[DA-WOODY.COM]

Ah look, if this mod was available, its clear that it wouldn't be used by the site in question.

Going by the clues, I think I've got the right place - its even titled anarchy! The "about us" clearly states

Like I said, its nothing that can't be done by good moderation. The problem here is you are the member of the site in question and not the admin. The discussion and language used fits their remit, if you don't like it then its time move on.....or get a license and create your own site to rival it ;)

you just might be an excellent guesser, but as I said I thinking about something for all sites to have an option to use (or not)

1 question for a nOOb from 06 w less than a handful of posts:

have I posted this in the proper location to get a response from those who create and administer the IP program ??

[optrexnz]

have I posted this in the proper location to get a response from those who create and administer the IP program ??

yes, I believe you have :)

[AlexWright]

I ran a big board for many years and I found that Vbulletin's "Tachy Goes to Coventry" feature was the ultimate tool for making trolls go away. It is a universal ingnore that the user doesn't know has been applied - everything looks normal to the hapless victim. Troll doesn't get attention, troll goes away.

This could actually be an interesting feature available to mods and admins that can set everyone to ignore a certain 'troll' user. I'd actually like this feature.

[Lee Craven]

I ran a big board for many years and I found that Vbulletin's "Tachy Goes to Coventry" feature was the ultimate tool for making trolls go away. It is a universal ingnore that the user doesn't know has been applied - everything looks normal to the hapless victim. Troll doesn't get attention, troll goes away.

This is actually a very interesting idea, I kind of like it.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

This could actually be an interesting feature available to mods and admins that can set everyone to ignore a certain 'troll' user. I'd actually like this feature.

long before site Admin decides a troll is a troll, the first few to be the victims of the troll should have a chance to be free from the trolls damage before the troll takes its toll

possible options for a "Block Me" feature could include additional choices to check reason:

[_] Just don't want person to view my posts = No notice sent anywhere just a "Peoples Choice"
[X] Troll that should be considered for banning form forum = Admin should get copy to keep track for possible action
[_] Violation of forum policy! Please take action to Ban Now = with comment box to show why sent to Admin for review & action



Loading up Admin with more power is all well and fine, but a simple way to protect desirable members from those bent on ruining someones day "ASAP" as well as a means to allow individual members to adjust the rating of content they receive without adjusting the content of others is a Good thing

my idea will not keep a troll from coming back as yet another troll - That's the kinda situation Admins get ideas for

[al_zander]

I ran a big board for many years and I found that Vbulletin's "Tachy Goes to Coventry" feature was the ultimate tool for making trolls go away. It is a universal ingnore that the user doesn't know has been applied - everything looks normal to the hapless victim. Troll doesn't get attention, troll goes away.

"Tachy Goes to Coventry" is an invaluable mod for those boards where mods and admins are actually anti-troll. It's all about attention and making the troll's posts invisible to all but the troll and staff kills off that attention stealthily and efficiently. I love it.

[Ditchmonkey]

"Tachy Goes to Coventry" is an invaluable mod for those boards where mods and admins are actually anti-troll. It's all about attention and making the troll's posts invisible to all but the troll and staff kills off that attention stealthily and efficiently. I love it.

It's pretty hilarious too. I had one poor sap who kept posting for months, oblivious to the fact nobody could see his posts. I finally felt sorry for him and reinstated him and he never knew the difference.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

"Tachy Goes to Coventry" is an invaluable mod for those boards where mods and admins are *actually anti-troll. It's all about attention and making the troll's posts invisible to all but the troll and staff kills off that attention stealthily and efficiently. I love it.

*or worthless in my situation :-(

hence the desire to have a tool that at least would allow "micro moderation" for the subject/victim of the troll.

If the tool incorporated a message back to Admin so that at some point they would see that a troll has pissed off enough people that they need to rise from arse and actually do something (or receive enough support help them take action)would be great!!

You know the site I'm talking about or you don't, not the issue

But the site I come from was created because of "Over Moderation" on most other sites to the point that the other sites became or started off as nothing more than the owners views and members who share the same views

That is No better than a forum of all trolls just different

to allow viewpoints that are not exactly your opinion is the only way to offer the most value and the best way to learn things you might not be exposed to otherwise and taking a solid position in Admin Action can harm the growth of a forum as well as total Lack of Action by Admin (and dead center might not be the answer either)

Being ALL one way is NOT the answer be it iron fisted Admin or complete lack there of

a "Block Me" feature will allow Admin to keep a finger on the pulse of the forum and the effect one person is having on the others in a manor that even reading 100% of the posts can not accomplish. As Admin you see things as Admin (cuz you are) people only post so others will see and read, if they are choosing to block someone from reading their post seeing their Pix etc there just might be something going on that you as Admin should take note of

the tool I ask for is like something that will keep a criminal from steeling out of your store in the meantime till they eventually commit enough crimes to go to prison (OK Over exaggeration possibly but not really that far off if you are the victim)

IN SHORT: What I'm asking for is a way to undermine the effect or a troll(s) that has gotten to the point that I would leave a forum after almost 6 years (as others have)

It's about retaining Good members and keeping the positive people around
ALL Without increasing the load on Admin (beyond set up)and if it brings situations to light that you might not have seen - Hay do something or nothing about it at least it wont be as bad as if the troll still had 100% access to the victim

PS I'm trying to have a solution that does not have to effect the Admin(s) view points and allow then to keep who they wish YET allow members to have some passive controll over what they must put up with when posting - is that too much to ask ???

[Michael]

What happens when the troll sends a message to someone else in the topic asking why they didn't respond, and the other person says they can't see the post the troll is referring to? Seems like it'd be pretty easy for the cat to get out of the bag and the troll to figure out what's going on, but maybe I just give trolls too much credit. :lol:

[Ditchmonkey]

What happens when the troll sends a message to someone else in the topic asking why they didn't respond, and the other person says they can't see the post the troll is referring to? Seems like it'd be pretty easy for the cat to get out of the bag and the troll to figure out what's going on, but maybe I just give trolls too much credit. :lol:

Sure some of them figure it out, but many don't. Besides when is the last time you sent someone a pm asking them why they didn't respond to you :P

[Michael]

Sure some of them figure it out, but many don't. Besides when is the last time you sent someone a pm asking them why they didn't respond to you :P

It's usually the other way around with me. :lol:

[DA-WOODY.COM]

What happens when the troll sends a message to someone else in the topic asking why they didn't respond, and the other person says they can't see the post the troll is referring to? Seems like it'd be pretty easy for the cat to get out of the bag and the troll to figure out what's going on, but maybe I just give trolls too much credit. :lol:

a troll does not deserve too much credit

a troll(s) (on the site I belong) are but attention whores who enjoy the Large reaction from little effort

the fact that the troll can not crap all-over the victims posts will Bug them to no end (reward to effort ratio goes way Down for what they expect)

the real life person behind the troll may in fact take the time to sign-up over and over again and target the same victim ---> That is where/why Admin now has the tools to deal with someone set out to ruin their site (if they care)

the troll in effect is the name used to stalk the victim and if that troll (member name) is compromised to the point that the troll can't bother the victim = troll Death (of no use to the actual person using the troll)

I may not get any sympathy here as I am but a member of a forum not an Admin and my views and situation is far from the same

I was once asked to and did place a forum on my web site --> You guys have my respect! is all I can say about that

I have considered and still think about having a forum once again (but nothing like the one I belong to) but seeing the shortcomings of how some forums go and Not wanting to stand by 24/7 I don't see it happening anytime soon

[optrexnz]

I have considered and still think about having a forum once again (but nothing like the one I belong to) but seeing the shortcomings of how some forums go and Not wanting to stand by 24/7 I don't see it happening anytime soon

As te forum builds to get other staff to help you out to take the pressure off. I wasn't on one of my forums for 12 months while I moved from one side of the world to the other - they didn't miss me ;)

[DA-WOODY.COM]

Should I consider this idea DOA :-(

is it currently possible for the site Admin to do something like the "Block-Me" feature (reverse - Ignore)

should I figure that by now anyone/everyone who could actually make it happen has had a look ??


any other suggestions to advance the cause of "Block-Me" besides just actually blocking Me :-O

[bfarber]

IF we were to implement this feature, it's not something we would have done within the 4 days since you posted the suggestion. ;)

Personally, I don't see a lot of demand for something like this. But, the topic has only been open a couple of days, too.

[DA-WOODY.COM]

IF we were to implement this feature, it's not something we would have done within the 4 days since you posted the suggestion. ;)

Personally, I don't see a lot of demand for something like this. But, the topic has only been open a couple of days, too.

I hope I didn't sound like "Hay What's Taking Sooooo Long"

just wondering if it was something that could be done by your customer and/or if the idea had run its course

I'll be sitting back hoping (and tracking the topic for impute)

Thank You for at least kicking the idea around a bit ............. Dennis