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    Michael_ got a reaction from Karma Goddess in How do i download plugins?   
    I just bought a plugin but when i click on "Download this file" i only get a popup telling me the following:
     
    Yeah im oldschool. I want to download my plugin and save it on my hdd.
    I then want to manually upload it through the acp to install as i always did for decades.
    So question is how do i download plugins to my local hdd?
    I do not want to use that app store crap.
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    Michael_ got a reaction from ZdenÄ›k Tůma in How do i download plugins?   
    I just bought a plugin but when i click on "Download this file" i only get a popup telling me the following:
     
    Yeah im oldschool. I want to download my plugin and save it on my hdd.
    I then want to manually upload it through the acp to install as i always did for decades.
    So question is how do i download plugins to my local hdd?
    I do not want to use that app store crap.
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    Michael_ reacted to newbie LAC in (NB41) Upload Group Restrictions   
    Support topic
     
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    Michael_ reacted to Adriano Faria in Links Directory   
    That means that I submitted, TODAY, at the same hour of this post, a version to marketplace. Now you wait for IPS to review and make it public.
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    Michael_ reacted to Adriano Faria in Links Directory   
    Ok, I'll take a look in next version.
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    Michael_ got a reaction from Haku2 in How do i download plugins?   
    Well you cant stop that anyway.

    And if you are concerned about "basic users" generating problems you could simply make it so it can be turned on/off by using constants.php for example.
    (So basic users would not even be able to download plugins.)
    Just as a suggestion.
    I would love to see that in a future version. 🙂
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    Michael_ got a reaction from Haku2 in How do i download plugins?   
    Yes i also think everything important has already been said.
    And this issue aside i still think ips is the best platform available.
    May i make a suggestion on closing?
    Why not simply allow downloads parallel to the "idiot install"?
    This way there would be no tradeoff but even a gain.
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    Michael_ got a reaction from Haku2 in How do i download plugins?   
    At the end of the day we live in a capitalist society.
    So customers and there money decide which companys and products survive.
    That being said xenforo already has the by far biggest market share.
    I suspect it will go up even more to the disadvantage of the invision power services company, soon.
    Given your new business practises i would actually like to see that happen.
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    Michael_ got a reaction from Haku2 in How do i download plugins?   
    BTW: That means the 1,5k i spent on IPS right now is like throwing 1,5k out of the window in the long run.
    Because you basically got nothing in 10 years from now.
    Yeah nobody would pay much for 10 year old software anyway but you wont even have the 10 year old software by then. 😄
    * Yes you can still run your existing installation. But you know the point.
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    Michael_ got a reaction from Haku2 in How do i download plugins?   
    The point is with vbulletin 3 for example i can perform a fresh install today.
    Then i can go ahead and install the plugins i want. (From packages i downloaded before of sites like vbulletin.org)
    You cant do such thing with ips 4.5 in 10 years from now. (i assume)
    The marketplace probably does not exist (at least in this form) anymore by then so you wont be able to install anything from it.
    And you cant download the full packages anymore since 4.5.
    So your basically screwed if you want to perform a fresh install of ips and plugins in like 10 years from now.
    Thats my whole point basically. 🙂
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    Michael_ got a reaction from Haku2 in How do i download plugins?   
    I just dont like planned obsolescence.
    Im still running forum software (modified) thats 20 years old on some of my other projects.
    Try installing IPS 4.5 and plugins off the marketplace in 20 years from now. Good luck! (At least without using pirated software) *
    Same reason why i never liked linux.
    But there you could at least run your own (offline) repository if you want to.
    That basically fixes it but is a hassle compared to just downloading one big package which contains
    everything (including dependencies) needed to install a software (without downloading stuff off the internet) as it was in windows ever since.
    Bevor they started ing it up by implementing a lot of crap starting with version 8 or 10.
    Thats why im using Windows 10 LTSC which strips much of that crap + some tweaks.
    * Yeah i know thats why you guys do it. You want to prevent that from happening.
    But that stinks. I think the customer should decide what he does with the software he BOUGHT.
    If he decides to reinstall it in 20 years from now there should be no asking "why would you want to do that?". He bought it. he owns it. His decision.
    Thats how it should be in my opinion.
    Think about it.
    10 or 20 year old forum software like vbulletin still works like a champ and gets the job done just fine.
    Add php 7 support & responsive/mobile support and you would be good to go for 2021.
    There would be absolutely no need to buy modern software in most cases.
    BUT unfortunately there is no php 7 and mobile support (at least out of the box and up to snuff with ips 4) cause its EOL.
    Why? So the developers can charge big for new versions and updates.
    Good thing is i probably wont be using ips 4.5 in 20 years from now. (I'd rather still use vb3 and wbb2 by then)
    So i guess i can live with whats going one here. I still dont like the direction in that you guys are heading (basically already headed), though
    BTW:
    My car is 50 years old too... Still running like a champ. No need to upgrade.
    Its actually better than the new crap you can buy today. Its got a big v8 putting out 200hp to the wheels, automatic transmission, ac, cruise control... You name it.

    Why would you want to upgrade to an electric vehicle where you have to lease the batteries and where recharging takes HOURS?
    These electric vehicles also got no power when going higher speeds.
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    Michael_ got a reaction from Haku2 in How do i download plugins?   
    I just bought a plugin but when i click on "Download this file" i only get a popup telling me the following:
     
    Yeah im oldschool. I want to download my plugin and save it on my hdd.
    I then want to manually upload it through the acp to install as i always did for decades.
    So question is how do i download plugins to my local hdd?
    I do not want to use that app store crap.
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    Michael_ reacted to Joel R in How do i download plugins?   
    I'm not here to defend IPS one way or the other, but ... Do you actually need the source code of plugins?  
    I'm not asking about rare 'what if' scenarios.  I'm asking if you genuinely have a need to review the source code or to perform security audits. The majority of clients don't actually need (nor would they understand) the source code.  We just need to know the plugin is installed and it works and it meets IPS' benchmarks. We install and go.    
    If you do have a need to examine and download the plugin, you can reach out to the author for a private transfer.  If you're self-hosted, there's also nothing stopping you from examining the TAR or XML files on your server.  And if you're cloud, there's a reason why you chose cloud, which is that you don't want to self-manage the software, much less third-party plugins.  
    I can't speak to other companies' policies, but my understanding of certain third-party ecosystems is that it's a glorified linklist to offsite resources.  No security reviews, no performance benchmarks, no standards at all for being listed.  You go to a third-party site, pass along financial and customer data to a third-party site that can pop up and shut down at any time, and install at your own risk. 
    IPS forcefully removed certain authors from the Marketplace for egregiously breaking certain standards, and those authors are still participating in other forum ecosystem. 
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    Michael_ reacted to Adriano Faria in How do i download plugins?   
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    Michael_ reacted to Steph40 in How do i download plugins?   
    4.4.10 is the last version that you can still download apps and plugins. After that it is all marketplace install.
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