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I said my assumption was that it wasn't their primary responsibility. Again, I'm no developer but I presumed that checking each and every single line of 3rd-party code for both code violations and safety would be unreasonable. Besides - there are (well, were) plenty of warnings for people who know how to read that 3rd-party apps/plugins aren't (well, weren't) IPS's responsibility. I realise that people who don't pay attention will still message, but I always thought those were easily dismissed (quite frankly, I think a potted email would have done the trick, which I've seen on umpteen million other websites in different contexts). In the end, though, I don't think anything can eliminate the question of vetting - whether Invision did it or a 3rd-party dev does it. Whether there's a Marketplace or not, it comes down to reputation and trust. And yes, I'd love to know some more (demographic) information about IPS that IPS will never give out. lol

OK...I guess you mean something different from "mods" than what I had in mind. 🙂 As for "safety," yeah, I was under the impression that the "caveat emptor" stipulation you had pretty much freed you up to check for code violations and that "safety" per se wasn't your primary concern.

How many devs have the time or are willing to go to the trouble to develop free/paid versions for each of their products? This would run @Adriano into the ground methinks.....

These are all pros though 😉....what are the cons you see?

I think this pretty much sums it up for me...although some smaller/beginning devs who may not be able to afford their own websites may fall off the map, and some devs may raise the prices of their apps in order to cover the costs of "going independent" with their own online presence. But maybe this will also help prune some of the apps out there that charge unrealistic renewal fees that aren't warranted by the nature of the app/what it offers....

I'm not sure what you mean here. As far as I know IPS never "validated" the "safety" of any third-party app; they only checked to make sure that devs weren't using existing code contra IPS rules. The "safety" of 3rd-party apps has never been Invision's responsibility (and for good reason!).

So unless I'm missing something, this means that if a developer doesn't have or is somehow unable to start their own independent website then they have no way to maintain their apps/plugins?

Really? I'm no expert but I find the last part of this sentence hard to believe given that there are many gaps in IPB functionality which necessitated the Marketplace community in the first place.

Update: I did hear back from rebraf via PM - as his license has currently expired he is unable to reply to the support message. He says he will continue support for Email Drip Campaigns through 4.x but will have to evaluate the situation as 5.x approaches, depending on Invision's plans and the subsequent changes which may need to be made. So stay tuned, I guess.

This is worrying...I spent a bit of time convincing myself to splash the cash on Email Drip Campaigns and have come to rely on it as it's a very important part of any business workflow. I'd like to hear from @rebraf about the future of this app....? Will development and updates continue into IPS 5?

I've fixed the problem! @Giray, this is what I did to solve the problem on my end: Go to your Clubs listing on your website. When you mouse over each Club title, note down the number for each one, e.g., yoursite.com/clubs/33-my-test-club. In this example, 33 is this Club's club ID number. Do this for each of your existing Clubs (if possible - don't know how many Clubs you're using). So you're going to make a list of the club IDs of your existing and active Clubs. Go into your server's Control Panel, load up phpMyAdmin and call up your Invision database Browse to the core_clubs_node_map table. You'll see a list of Club features. There's a field named club_id. This is the only field you need to worry about; check each club_id number against the list you made before and if an entry has a club_id number which is not on your list, delete it because, as @Adriano Faria pointed out, they are no longer tied to an existing club and can be removed. That's it! I found a fistful and deleted them. I also just ran clubrebuild again and it ran successfully (with ICE enabled). I glean from your posts that you aren't familiar with phpMyAdmin, but your tech people could do this easily enough I reckon. Hope this helps!

@Adriano Faria do you have any tips as to how to approach this? Unfortunately, due to the way IPB handles naming I've checked this table in phpMyAdmin and there are fistfuls of entries called the same thing ("Blog," "Topics," etc.) and I'm afraid of deleting the wrong thing. I also assume that if I delete everything in this table my Club features will all disappear, which would be, well, bad 😮 lol Or is it just a matter of matching up the club IDs on the site with the club_id field and deleting those with no existing club by ID?

@Giray I've tried re-running clubrebuild with all customizations disabled as per the Support option - it still didn't work, and it throws "2C124/2 The task is already running and cannot be ran until it has finished or the lock is removed." However, when I then go to the Tasks list it says that clubrebuild is "Running..." and it stays that way (even though I have quite a small amount of club material in the end). If I then log out and log in again to teh adminCP and check Tasks, clubrebuild is listed as having "Never" run. I then try to run it (at this point I have re-enabled everything I had before except Improved Clubs Enhancements, which is still disabled) and the adminCP throws "2C124/1 The task you attempted to run could not be found." But then I return to the Tasks list and I see that clubrebuild is "Running now..."?!? 😶 Guess it's time to submit an official support request....sigh

Yeah...times like this I wish there were a Purge button for the logs.....cough cough

@Giray, apologies as I haven't had time to follow this entire thread, but: have you tried disabling ICE and, if so, did that address the System Log issues?