Perhaps I wasn't clear. We all paid $250 years ago for an IPS software license which we are all throwing in the garbage because they can't be sold. We also paid roughly $80/yr to maintain that software license and future development, or roughly $1,600 or so for me, for the 20 years.

Some of us are paying IPS $588 annually for the cloud infrastructure including IPS software as a service and to support future development.

The migration fee has nothing to do with software.

Edited March 22Mar 22 by Jeffrey Roberts

As someone who has done a migration to cloud, I know first hand the time and effort is much more than “15 minutes” of work. All in on migration day itself was around 4-5 hours of work by Marc and the planning part was another 2-3 hours with Olivia. Any migration fee is not a profit center by any means.

At the end of the day, you have to look at the TCO of the service including the migration costs. If it’s not worth it for you, stay self hosted. IPS has committed to having that option for v5.

I found the service to be well worth it overall.

@Randy Calvert I completely respect your experience. It's the "Beginner" cloud offering and not with any additional products. I just can't imagine what could possibly take 4-5 hours for a migration as simple as mine. There's a single database, some folders and a vanilla install and theme.

It's the same identical cost for me to self host versus use the cloud except for this migration fee hence why I'm questioning it for those in the "Beginner" category.

Edited March 22Mar 22 by Jeffrey Roberts

 

@Randy Calvert I completely respect your experience. It's the "Beginner" cloud offering and not with any additional products. I just can't imagine what could possibly take 4-5 hours for a migration as simple as mine. There's a single database, some folders and a vanilla install and theme.

You're not accounting for things such as SSL setup, or setting up the CDN, configuration of mail delivery and a bunch of other things that are required as part of the process. That also does not include the time to test or handle DNS setup, etc. But that's the value of having IPS handle everything... you don't have to worry about all of that. That cost you're paying covers them doing all of the things that need done.

And the size itself of the database itself does not really change the time it takes. The database import time is basically wall time, but the majority of tasks are things that have to be done regardless if the site has 1 post or 1 billion posts.

Again, I totally respect your experience with IPS. I actually was a UNIX / Linux / Open Source IT guy for 25 years and managed many dev and operations teams for large media and software development orgs. The forum is my side gig. So, I agree that IPS could do everything. I still don't understand the 4-5 hours since I could do this myself.

Free migration is advertised in my Client Area, on the IPS website, etc.. The catch is you have to spend more annually to get that. That's the issue here gentlemen. It's not to minimize the work IPS does or the effort it took to release v5 and continue to be a viable business.

You've helped make up my mind. I will stay self hosted and deal with it myself. Not what I hoped for, but so be it.

Cheers!

Edited March 23Mar 23 by Jeffrey Roberts

Hi, I am considering upgrading but I need to agree to switch licences, could someone please explain or point me in the right direction to see the differences? (Change your license to new Invision Community Classic terms).

The biggest change is if you let your license expire for more than X time it can’t be renewed anymore and needs to be bought again.

This is to stop those that might say wait 3 years to renew and expect to keep the same price. The software is meant to be a subscription renewed regularly not at random intervals whenever someone decides they want to.

 

Hi, I am considering upgrading but I need to agree to switch licences, could someone please explain or point me in the right direction to see the differences? (Change your license to new Invision Community Classic terms).

There are a few discussions about this already if you perform a search on Invision Community, but in a nutshell (and as explained by @teraßyte, if you click the Change your license to new Invision Community Classic terms title, you'll get a summary of your situation. Clicking that button won't change anything just yet, you have to confirm again on the page that loads, and only after choosing either the month or year renewal option.

Be aware that after clicking the button it might take a while to load all your data to calculate your new terms.

 

There are a few discussions about this already if you perform a search on Invision Community, but in a nutshell (and as explained by @teraßyte, if you click the Change your license to new Invision Community Classic terms title, you'll get a summary of your situation. Clicking that button won't change anything just yet, you have to confirm again on the page that loads, and only after choosing either the month or year renewal option.

Be aware that after clicking the button it might take a while to load all your data to calculate your new terms.

Thank you,

You're welcome! 👌

 

@Lindy I am ready to move to the cloud and was told with only a "Beginner" plan (that's all I need) there would be a $250 charge to migrate. Since I've self-hosted and looked after all my needs since the dinosaurs were roaming, I'm happy to give you $588 per year for the beginner plan which is considerably more than the $80 I was paying per year; however, paying a one-time $250 charge to migrate, which is something I could do myself, is bit of a deal breaker.

Thoughts?

Relatively speaking, that is a very cost effective price point for a migration. They are providing a service for you where the responsibility of uptime etc will fall on them. $250 is a chunk of change, I get it, but in the long run you will be making a smart investment for yourself and your community. Just my unsolicited two cents :)

Guys, you're all missing the point...

The Switch to Cloud page says the migration is free but then he was asked for a $250 fee: https://invisioncommunity.com/services/switch-to-invision/

Edited March 29Mar 29 by teraßyte

 

Guys, you're all missing the point...

Just out of curiosity, who is missing the point?

Edited March 29Mar 29 by Miss_B