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markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 I'm at my wits end with this stuff and wondering if someone can help me figure out where the resource issues are coming from on my site. At the moment I host 4 sites on my VPS, the busiest of which is in my sig, the other one's don't even register on the "mildly busy" dial. Since I upgraded to 3.3 I didn't really notice any resource issues, in fact probably the opposite, it seemed a little snappier if anything. Then I noticed an issue with IPDownloads category listings, they were slightly off-tab so enabling screenshots to show on sub cats sorted that. The resource usage went through the roof so I quickly reverted that and things went back to normal. I've since also removed a few mods that I can live without but things just don't seem to be getting any better now - worse in fact. I made the final changes (removing a few mods, etc) last week, and things looked good, then this morning the site is crawling again. Normally the load on the site is anywhere between 0.40 and 1-2. Now it's something like 5+ and slowing the site considerably. If we had a sudden hit from a lot of people (100+) it can spike upto around 3-4 for a moment but always comes down, but now with just 50 guest's it's killing itself at 5+ for ages and the site can take anywhere up to a minute to refresh a page. I'm not sure if there is such a thing as an idiots guide on where to start with this but if anyone can help walk me through how I begin to figure what's going on I'd really appreciate it :)Specs and stats as follows: 4200+ registered members - never really seen any more than 100 people on the site at any one time CentOS 5 - i386 (32-bit) CPU's on server: 16 IP.Board Version : v3.3.0 (ID:33011) MYSQL Version : MYSQL 5.0.95-community-log PHP Version : 5.3.6 (apache2handler) Loaded Extensions : Core, PDO, Reflection, SPL, SQLite, SimpleXML, apache2handler, bcmath, calendar, ctype, curl, date, dom, eAccelerator, ereg, exif, filter, ftp, gd, hash, iconv, imap, ionCube Loader, json, libxml, mcrypt, memcache, mysql, mysqli, openssl, pcre, pdo_mysql, pdo_sqlite, posix, session, soap, sockets, sqlite3, standard, tokenizer, xml, xmlreader, xmlrpc, xmlwriter, zlib Total Server Memory : 4096 MB Available Server Memory : 2621 MBSnapshot of System Processestop - 06:33:58 up 1:55, 0 users, load average: 1.02, 0.92, 1.90 Tasks: 44 total, 2 running, 42 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 5.7%us, 0.5%sy, 0.0%ni, 93.3%id, 0.5%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.0%si, 0.0%st Mem: 4194304k total, 1495864k used, 2698440k free, 0k buffers Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 0k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 7918 nobody 25 0 241m 208m 12m R 99.8 5.1 3:26.69 httpd 1 root 15 0 2156 668 576 S 0.0 0.0 0:03.69 init 1138 root 15 -4 2260 544 328 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 udevd 1481 root 18 0 1812 572 476 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.04 syslogd 1528 named 22 0 191m 5492 2068 S 0.0 0.1 0:05.29 named 1569 memcache 18 0 76988 23m 540 S 0.0 0.6 0:06.35 memcached 1585 root 18 0 7240 1044 636 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 sshd 1593 root 15 0 2832 860 684 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 xinetd 1605 root 18 0 2548 1164 1000 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 mysqld_safe 1635 mysql 15 0 683m 70m 3588 S 0.0 1.7 4:34.19 mysqld 3190 root 18 0 138m 102m 1288 S 0.0 2.5 0:04.14 clamd 3197 mailnull 15 0 10368 1136 640 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 exim 3226 root 18 0 16060 13m 1160 S 0.0 0.3 0:01.42 lfd 3241 root 15 0 38244 31m 2548 S 0.0 0.8 0:02.12 spamd 3247 root 18 0 2156 708 544 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.19 dovecot 3248 root 15 0 2632 1020 824 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 dovecot-auth 3252 dovecot 15 0 5296 2000 1632 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pop3-login 3253 dovecot 15 0 5296 2000 1632 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pop3-login 3254 dovecot 15 0 5316 2016 1636 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 imap-login 3255 dovecot 15 0 5316 2012 1636 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 imap-login 3281 root 18 0 42416 14m 4952 S 0.0 0.4 0:01.20 httpd 3292 root 18 0 5384 1448 1100 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pure-ftpd 3294 root 16 0 5080 1152 904 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pure-authd 3303 root 15 0 3328 1112 568 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.08 crond 3371 root 15 0 38696 31m 1892 S 0.0 0.8 0:03.33 spamd 3439 root 18 0 14228 7260 1204 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.21 cpsrvd-ssl 3443 root 18 0 15332 9224 1772 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 cpdavd 3467 root 15 0 6088 4312 1320 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.08 queueprocd 3482 root 33 18 4140 1828 672 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 cpanellogd 3499 root 15 0 7960 5204 1752 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.65 tailwatchd 7860 root 16 0 10448 380 228 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 vzctl 7861 root 18 0 2548 1360 1120 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 bash 7915 root 16 0 7996 5252 1824 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.09 leechprotect 8023 nobody 15 0 49784 27m 11m S 0.0 0.7 0:05.14 httpd 8026 nobody 15 0 51900 29m 11m S 0.0 0.7 0:07.85 httpd 8141 nobody 17 0 47308 24m 10m S 0.0 0.6 0:02.86 httpd 8147 nobody 15 0 47284 24m 9768 S 0.0 0.6 0:01.48 httpd 8159 nobody 15 0 47324 24m 9988 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.70 httpd 8160 nobody 15 0 47288 23m 9292 S 0.0 0.6 0:04.79 httpd 8161 nobody 15 0 46992 24m 10m S 0.0 0.6 0:02.98 httpd 8164 nobody 15 0 45988 22m 9724 S 0.0 0.6 0:03.62 httpd 8181 nobody 18 0 45684 22m 9836 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.37 httpd 9216 nobody 18 0 47296 23m 9524 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.61 httpd 9225 nobody 18 0 2284 924 732 R 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 top
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Just as a sidenote, I've alread loaded MySQLTuner but because I've had to restart the server in the last 24 hours the results could be off a little so I'll post those after the server has been up and running for a while longer :)
PeterUK Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 16 CPUs (which I presume is two quads with HT?) and only 4GB of RAM, and x86 so no 64-bit instruction set? Seems an odd setup. See what MySQLTuner recommends, but my immediate thoughts are that perhaps you should make sure all of your tables are optimised. I would shut down the MySQL server and run a myisamchk on all of the MYI files, then start it back up and repair and optimise all tables. As well as this, I think your MySQL server could be configured to use more of the available RAM although I'm not sure about that. It seems to be Apache causing the hold up though. Try turning off GZip compression if you have it enabled, and perhaps also try enabling a caching system.
Luis Manson Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 also check shell$ mysql -uUSER -p show processlist; and check if there is any intensive query running i had similar problems and tracked down to be scheduled task running at the whorst time ;)
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Thanks for the initial advice Peter, I have already tried optimising the tables but only from the admin CP, but nothing noticeable so far. I also tried rebooting the server from WHM after the server became so unresponsive page loads just weren't happening and that hung!. I had to raise a support ticket to have the "container" restarted.Thanks Luis, will give that a try and report back :)
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 The processlist concerns me somewhat, can anyone form an opinion on whether apache seems to be creating an issue here based on the CPU usage which doesn't really go down any? Bearing in mind we only have something like 30-40 guest's on the site at the moment and I've just noticed that eAccelerator is configured and running also.
PeterUK Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Apache uses a separate thread for each connection (that looks like your setup from what I can see), so there's no way two threads should be using all of your available CPU. Is anything else other than IPB hosted on the same server? EDIT: What apache modules are you running?
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Yes, 2 wordpress sites and another download site which draw hardly any visitors at all :)
Connor T Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Are you using DSO as a handler? (based on the nobody). This is what I would do. -Drop DSO and switch to mod_ruid2 (its amazing) -Update your php to 5.3.10 :P
PeterUK Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Yes, 2 wordpress sites and another download site which draw hardly any visitors at all :) Okay, a few things. First, is anything going on in your Apache error logs? That would be a good place to start. Secondly, run top again, get a PID which is causing a problem (in your screenshot, an example PID would be 7742). Issue this command and take note of the output:lsof -p 7742 Where 7742 is the PID. This will dump pretty much all the actions taken by that process, including the connection information (usually the last entry from that command). From there you can derive the IP address and check your Apache access log to see what that user has requested, and perhaps get a URL which is causing the problem. If you want to PM me the output of that command I can get the details for you about what to search your logs for and send it over. I wouldn't post it publicly as it reveals some path information about your server as well as the IP of it and the user, so if you don't want to, that's fine. Are you using DSO as a handler? (based on the nobody). This is what I would do. -Drop DSO and switch to mod_ruid2 (its amazing) -Update your php to 5.3.10 :P Operating Systems like CentOS which use the package system often report their PHP version as being something like 5.3.6, but they have all the security updates/patches from the latest versions.
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 @Connor - I've absolutely no idea what that means mate, I'll certainly look into it but if you are able to offer any guidance on how I would go about that in kinda quick-form I'd seriously appreciate it :) @Peter - I'm on it :)
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 Eww, OK, just found the apache error log and it's not particularly good ... it's absolutely massive, downloading just now, but on a side-note, I took a look at the sites hosted on on my VPS and there were actually more than I remembered. They are all mine, but old one's, so I've suspended all of them for now apart from FBB and take a look at the processes now!! I'm still working on trying to figure where the issue might be coming from but I guess I can safely, and thankfully, say they don't seem to be coming from FBB :)
PeterUK Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 Woah woah don't bother downloading it. We just need the last few issues from it.tail /path/to/apache/log If you really want to download it at least compress it first!
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 LOL, gotcha! Sending some details over to you just now Peter :)
Enkidu Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 first of all you need to know who/what is eating your CPU. For that run the following command ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -10 but the issue is since you're using DSO. You won't be able which account is the culprit. I'd recommend switching to fcgi. Now we need to know if the overload is caused by memory shortage. For that, run vmstat 2 10 look under the column so (page out). Ideally it should be zero if it stayed at anything bigger than zero then you need to optimize/increase your RAM.
markopolo2002 Posted April 1, 2012 Author Posted April 1, 2012 OK, Peter very kindly took a closer look at what was happening in the logs, etc, and it looks like my file downloads are causing a potential issue on the site. When I can't link directly to a developers website for a file download, I download the file myself, upload it via FTP and then link to it in IPDownloads. I do it this way because a while back I considered using a CDN but went off the idea after I realised it kill cripple me financially, but I never changed the initial setup on the site and things have just went boom over the past year so I've not had the time to start changing anything. As I say, Peter has looked through just about everything and most of it seems perfectly normal, so there is a question mark hanging over the file downloads from the site - that's something I'm going to try and work on very shortly and hopefully with the introduction of a mod to the site I've been planning for some time I'll avoid the need to serve downloads completely :) Thanks to everyone for the help, especially Peter who spent a while on this one with me Marko
markopolo2002 Posted April 2, 2012 Author Posted April 2, 2012 Just a final update on this one, Peter spent a great deal of time walking me through setting up a nginx server to serve our downloads which are held locally which seems to certainly have helped considerably. I have also suspended a few of the sites which were on the server which weren't really getting used a lot and which I really don't have the time anymore to administer so in all, a great outcome - thanks a million again to all concerned for their input and Peter for his time :thumbsup:
markopolo2002 Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 Well, unfortunately it would appear my issue is back and I'm beginning to wonder if it is something to do with the recent upgrade to IPB and changes in IPSEO?. I've just about lost it with my host who seem to make one excuse after another, basically they don't know what the issue is - but the latest excuse they have come up with is googlebot has been making thousands of request's on my site today, and it would appear they are blaming gbot for the past few weeks also. According to our host gbot had made 24,000 hits on our site in the last 5 hours so I reduced the crawl rate in webmaster tools to hopefully slow them down, but 24,000 hits in 5 hours???? What the heck?! However, before the upgrade I didn't have these issues so I'm left wondering have the recent "SEO improvements" contributed to this issue?. I still find it strange that it only happens at weekends, during the week I hardly see a spike on the server at all, always starts kicking off around a Sunday!!
p4guru Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 maybe setup a hourly cronjob for WHM version of mysqlmymonlite.sh (zip readme.txt has a how to), and log all server stats to time stamped log files every hour for say 24-48hrs and review the logs to see what's happening at high cpu load time ? of course it could be true too that your server is being hammered by bots etc but check google webmaster > diagnostic -> crawl stats to see what activity there is if it's up to date
markopolo2002 Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 Personally I can't help feel my host is talking bull - I've restricted the bots yet our loads are still up at 3-4 for the site and browsing is just a complete waste of time - it's a managed VPS because I know virtually nothing about managing a server so basically I think it's time to look for another host - I get the feeling the host just takes a quick look at the first stat they find interesting and blames that!
p4guru Posted April 15, 2012 Posted April 15, 2012 how you restricted bots ? via robots.txt ? not all bots obey the robot.txt set rules i.e. yandex and baidu are 2 bots that don't
markopolo2002 Posted April 15, 2012 Author Posted April 15, 2012 Yep, already banned a few bots in the server firewall, just banned another IP which was taking up nearly 60% of the CPU for some reason, couldn't identify what it was and now the server load is down to 0.02 instead of the 5-6 it was before banning !!!
Lavo Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 My best guess is that it is baidu, It would always have an active presence on a site i work on with about 10 ip's crawling the pages. It actually forced us to move to a VPS since we got suspended by the host since at the time. Luckily the VPS price was the same as the current hosting so that was awesome. From what i remember baidu was always coming back from being blocked. This site helped a lot (It also has other bots that don't obey robots.txt) http://www.netnuisance.net/ip/se.php
Rhett Posted April 16, 2012 Posted April 16, 2012 Keep in mind a VPS is still shared... so other VPS's on the same box can effect your sites no matter what type of "sales spin" they put on the term VPS. Just something to keep in mind... many people think a VPS is non dependent on other VPS's on the same machine and that is false. So while you have been pulling your hair out looking for an issue, it very well could have been an issue not related to your site at all.
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